Calculating Work and Friction in a Box on a Flat Floor

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The problem involves calculating the work done by a woman pushing a box on a flat floor, as well as the work done by friction. The box has a mass of 49 kg, a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.60, and is initially at rest before being pushed to a speed of 3 m/s.

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  • Participants discuss using kinematic equations to relate acceleration, distance, and work. There are attempts to clarify the meaning of CM-work and its relation to center of mass. Some participants express confusion about the relationship between kinetic energy and work.

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Participants are exploring different methods to calculate work and are questioning the validity of their approaches. Some have provided calculations for work done by the woman and friction, while others are verifying the correctness of their reasoning and results.

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There is mention of dimensional analysis to check the validity of formulas used, and participants are considering the implications of using different equations in their calculations.

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Homework Statement



A box of mass 49 kg is initially at rest on a flat floor. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the box and the floor is 0.60. A woman pushes horizontally against the box with a force of 628 N until the box attains a speed of 3 m/s.

What is the work done by the woman on the box?

and

What is the CM-work done by the friction force on the box?

Homework Equations



W=F (delata x)
&
W(f)= uN (delta x)

The Attempt at a Solution



Since work is in joules, I tried calculating it by multiplying force by velocity squared but that gave me a wrong answer. If I had the right answer for work I'd solve for delta x and use that to solve for work of friction
 
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Try to think Kinematics: You know the mass, you know that it starts from rest, and you know the box's final speed.
 
Also CM-work is center of mass right? not centimeter?
 
I believe so, yes.
 
vf^2 = vo^2 + 2(a) d? seems to be what I'm looking for maybe. Do I use F=ma to splve for a? so 3^2 = 2 (d) 628/49. making d = 441/1256? so W= 628 (441/1256) = 220.5
 
I believe you can use f=ma to solve for acceleration. From there, use a kinematics equation to solve for distance in the x direction. Then you can multiply that by the force to solve for work.
 
But that's the KE, they're not the same are they?
 
So delta KE is 220.5, work by woman 220.5, and work by the force of friction = (u)mg (d) = .6(9.8)49( 441/1256) = 101.1631... ? Is that right?
 
gcharles_42 said:
But that's the KE, they're not the same are they?

That's why dimensional analysis is so handy.

Energy and work have the same derived units: W = (M*L^2/T^2)

If you apply dimensional analysis to your original supposition that W = F*V^2,
you would see that F = M*L/T^2 and V^2 = L^2/T^2, so W = M*L^3/T^4,
which isn't even close to the correct W = M*L^2/T^2
 
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Yeah, I didn't use that supposition. I used vf^2 = vo^2 + 2(a) d instead to find distance... I just want to know if my answers for work of the woman and of the friction force are correct?
 

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