Calculating Work and Thermal Efficiency of a Heat Engine

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The discussion revolves around a heat engine problem involving helium gas undergoing a closed cycle with isothermal, isobaric, and isochoric processes. Participants are tasked with calculating the work done by the engine and its thermal efficiency.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculations for work done during different processes of the heat engine cycle, questioning the signs and values of heat transfer during isothermal compression.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations for work and thermal efficiency, while others are questioning the assumptions made regarding heat transfer during compression. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these assumptions on the efficiency calculation.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the relevance of heat entering or leaving the system in the context of the efficiency formula, highlighting the need for careful interpretation of the processes involved.

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Homework Statement



A heat engine using 5.00 g of helium gas is initially at STP. The gas goes through the following closed cycle:
- Isothermal compression until the volume is halved.
- Isobaric expansion until the volume is restored to its initial value.
- Isochoric cooling until the pressure is restored to its initial value.

a)How much work does this engine do per cycle?
b)What is its thermal efficiency?

Homework Equations



thermal efficiency = Wout/QH

(thermal efficiency)Carnot = 1 - TC/TH

The Attempt at a Solution



for part a) I got:

isothermal work = nRTln(V at 2/V at 1) = -1967 J
isobaric work = p(V at 3 - V at 2) = 2836 J
isochoric work = 0

total work done in one cycle = -1967 + 2836 = 869 J

for pat b) i got:

from 1 to 2:
Q = -W = 1967 J

from 2 to 3:
Q = nC_p(deltaT), C_p for a monatomic gas is (5/2)R, this comes from the equipartition theorem
Q = (1.25)(5R/2)(273K) = 7094 J

from 3 to 1:
Q must be negative since there is a work output so therefore Q in this process is irrelevant since we only need the Q that is added to the system

efficiency = (total work done in one cycle)/(heat added in one cycle)
efficiency = (869 J)/(7094 J + 1967 J) = 0.096=9.6% But apparently that's the wrong answer!

I don't know what's wrong. Help!
 
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Hi j88k,

j88k said:

Homework Statement



A heat engine using 5.00 g of helium gas is initially at STP. The gas goes through the following closed cycle:
- Isothermal compression until the volume is halved.
- Isobaric expansion until the volume is restored to its initial value.
- Isochoric cooling until the pressure is restored to its initial value.

a)How much work does this engine do per cycle?
b)What is its thermal efficiency?


Homework Equations



thermal efficiency = Wout/QH

(thermal efficiency)Carnot = 1 - TC/TH

The Attempt at a Solution



for part a) I got:

isothermal work = nRTln(V at 2/V at 1) = -1967 J
isobaric work = p(V at 3 - V at 2) = 2836 J
isochoric work = 0

total work done in one cycle = -1967 + 2836 = 869 J

for pat b) i got:

from 1 to 2:
Q = -W = 1967 J


Looking at this part: If the gas is being compressed and the temperature is not changing, is heat entering or leaving the system? (In the efficiency formula you only count heat going into the system.) Does this help?
 
so the answer would be (869)/(7094)=0.122=12.2% ?
 
Looks good! :smile:
 

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