Calculating Work Done by Friction

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the work done by friction on a mass being pulled across a surface with a specified coefficient of friction. The mass, pulling force, and angle of application are given, along with the displacement distance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the normal force and its impact on determining the frictional force. There are attempts to calculate work done by friction using different methods, with some questioning the accuracy of the values used in calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively sharing their calculations and reasoning. There is a mix of attempts to clarify the approach and check assumptions regarding the forces acting on the mass. Some guidance has been provided regarding the consistency of signs in equations and the values used for gravitational acceleration.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential confusion regarding the angle used in calculations and the interpretation of the work done by friction, including whether to consider magnitude or direction in the final answer.

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Homework Statement


There's a mass (16.6 kg) on a surface with kinetic coeficient of friction 0.181. it's being pulled by a constant force of 161 N at 26 degrees above the horizontal. The block is displaced 39.1 meters. Calculate the work done by friction.

Homework Equations


Friction = (mu)Fn, F=ma
W = fd

The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried to do this 2 ways now, both ended up wrong:
First I thought the force doesn't matter since you know mu and the mass and the displacement. so i thought the work done by friction would equal (16.6)(9.8)(0.181)(39.1)
since friction = mu Fn and W = Fd.

My second attempt, which i only tried because the first was wrong, factored out the vertical component of the pulling force when finding the normal and friction.
 
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Yeah, to get the frictional force, you need to know the normal force, and the normal force is going to depend on the other vertical forces that act on the object.

Can you post the work you did for the second method?
 
sure.
mg = (9.8)(16.6)= -162.68 N
Fy = 161 sin(26.6) = 72.08921314 N
so Fnet down/ -Fn = -90.59078686 N
then W(fric) = (39.1)(0.181)(90.59078686) = -641.1200577 J
 
I understand that you're trying to indicate direction with the negative, you should make sure that it appears in all parts of the equation.

I can't find anything wrong with your answer, try using 9.81 instead of 9.8, and possibly a positive answer instead of a negative answer. It might have been asking (not clearly) for the magnitude of the work, or was expecting you to use a specific value of g.
 
I must've been tired and mixed up the 16.6 kg and 26 degrees, so i used 26.6 degrees when calculating instead. i feel dumb xD
 

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