Calculating Work Done by Gravitational Force: Undergrad Homework Help

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The problem involves calculating the work done by gravitational force on a block sliding down an incline, given various forces acting on it and the change in kinetic energy. The context is within the subject area of mechanics, specifically focusing on work-energy principles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between work and energy, with attempts to apply the work-energy theorem. Questions arise regarding the correct application of forces and their contributions to the net work done on the block.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights on the correct formulation of the work-energy relationship. Some guidance has been offered regarding the signs of work done by different forces and the need to consider their directions. There is no explicit consensus yet, as participants are still exploring various interpretations and calculations.

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Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings related to units and the application of work done by forces. There is an emphasis on ensuring that all contributions to the net work are correctly accounted for, particularly in relation to the incline and the forces acting on the block.

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I thought I knew how to solve this, but I'm stuck

a block slides down an incline. As it moves from point A to point B, which are 5.0 m apart, a force F acts on the block, with magnitude 2.4 N and directed down the incline. The magnitude of the frictional force acting on the block is 10 N. If the kinetic energy of the block increases by 45 J between A and B, how much work is done on the block by the gravitational force as the block moves from A to B?

I used the equation W'=delta ke+gravitational force

W'=2.4-10=-7.6 J
then I subtracted ke to get gravitational force=-52.6 J

then -mg=-52.6/5=-10.52

i then set 45=mgh, solved for h and got h=4.27756654

and then divided -52.6 by h to get -12.2967. This is wrong, and I'm stuck.
 
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Watch your units. Work is not force, so in your equation for w', you can't just equate Joules (energy) with Newtons (force).

The question is asking you to calculate the work done by gravity, so why not cast everything into the form of work done? Work done by a force f acting over distance d is given by f.d, where the period represents the vector dot product. Luckily, almost all our given forces act directly along the line of motion, they just become f*d, the usual product.

Can you write an equation that expresses the gain in kinetic energy as the net work done by all the forces acting?
 
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alright. so, W=F*d.

So, the work of kinetic energy is 45J.

I calculated the work of F and friction to be 12J and 50J, respectively.

so, not I have the equation:

(45+12+50) + Work done by gravity=F*d.

And now I'm stuck.
 
janthony said:
alright. so, W=F*d.

So, the work of kinetic energy is 45J.

I calculated the work of F and friction to be 12J and 50J, respectively.

so, not I have the equation:

(45+12+50) + Work done by gravity=F*d.

And now I'm stuck.

Pay attention to the directions that forces are operating. The force F is doing work in the direction of motion, so it can be called positive, and it serves to add kinetic energy to the block. The force of friction is working against the direction of motion, so it's robbing energy from the block's motion; it'll be a negative contribution. The work done by gravity will also be adding to the downslope motion of the block.

So, if +45J is the net change in kinetic energy (the sum of all the individual contributions to the change), write the equation: 45J = ?...
 

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