Calculation of neutron transport cross section

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of neutron transport cross sections, specifically in the context of thermal neutron scattering in water and heavy water. Participants are exploring the relationship between transport cross sections and mean free paths, as well as the values of 1-cos(theta) used in these calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents mean free paths and transport cross sections for water and heavy water from a book on nuclear reactions, seeking guidance on calculating transport cross sections from thermal scattering cross sections.
  • Another participant provides a formula for macroscopic transport cross section and mentions specific values of 1-cos(theta) for water and heavy water.
  • A different participant questions the origin of the provided values of 1-cos(theta) and reports obtaining significantly different transport cross section values when applying them.
  • One participant shares a link to a resource that may clarify the topic further.
  • A participant expresses gratitude for the shared resource but indicates ongoing confusion regarding the transport mean free paths and the source of the previously mentioned values.
  • Another participant reiterates the formula for macroscopic transport cross section and challenges the use of theta in thermal energy, suggesting that scattering is isotropic in that energy range.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct values for transport cross sections or the appropriateness of using 1-cos(theta) in thermal neutron scattering calculations. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain evident throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the derivation of the values for 1-cos(theta) and the assumptions underlying the calculations of transport cross sections. The discussion highlights potential limitations in the application of certain formulas in the context of thermal neutron scattering.

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I have a book on nuclear reactions which details the mean free paths for thermal neutron scattering as:
0.37cm for water and
2.2cm for heavy water

The transport cross sections are listed as 0.45cm for water and 2.6cm for heavy water. Does anyone know how to calculate these from the thermal scattering cross sections?

Thanks!
 
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macroscopic transport cross section=macroscopic scattering cross section *(1-cos(theta))
or generally
macroscopic cross section=1/mean free path

for water 1-cos(theta)=0.324 and 0.116 for heavy water
 
Where do these values of 1-cos(theta) come from?

If I use them, I obtain very different values of transport cross section than those in my book. These values of 1-cos(theta) give 1.14cm for water and 19.16cm for heavy water?
 
Thanks for the text, it was useful.

However, I am still unable to arrive at the values for the transport mean free paths which were stated in my book on nuclear reactions, and I do not understand where your values come from.

Thanks again for trying to help
 
Stephan_doc said:
macroscopic transport cross section=macroscopic scattering cross section *(1-cos(theta))
or generally
macroscopic cross section=1/mean free path

for water 1-cos(theta)=0.324 and 0.116 for heavy water

Its not right to use theta in thermal energy because in thermal area of energy scattering is isotropic!
 

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