Calculation on a water cooled compressor

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The discussion revolves around calculating the water temperature in a water-cooled compressor system, specifically focusing on the thermal dynamics involved in the cooling process. Participants explore the necessary parameters and assumptions required for the calculations, including flow rates and temperature conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks how to calculate the water temperature in step 3 and whether more information is needed, suggesting that the water temperature in step 2 could range between 288 and 313K.
  • Another participant lists necessary items for the calculation, including flow rates of glycol and seawater, the material being compressed, and the inlet and outlet temperatures of that material, noting that heat transfer requirements can typically be obtained from the compressor supplier.
  • A third participant reiterates the need for flow rates and temperature data, providing specific values for the flow rate of the water-glycol mixture and the maximum inlet temperature of the air being compressed, while also suggesting an assumption for step 2's temperature.
  • A later reply mentions that a 300 kW compressor requires about 20 kW of cooling, based on manufacturer data, and discusses the need to calculate temperature rise using the specific heat of the glycol solution, indicating a preference for English units.
  • The original poster inquires about the air flow rate and whether all necessary information has been provided.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the necessary values for the calculations, with multiple competing views on the assumptions and data needed for accurate temperature calculations.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the availability of specific heat data for the glycol solution and the inlet and outlet temperatures of the compressed air, which are not fully resolved in the discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals working on thermal dynamics in cooling systems, particularly in compressor applications, may find this discussion relevant.

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How can i calculate the water temperatur in step 3? Do i need more information?
We can assume the water temperatur in step 2 is anything between 288 and 313K.
If anyone knows how to calculate step 4, ill take that as well.
 
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Some items needed:
1) flow rate of glycol & sea water
2) material being compressed
3) inlet & outlet temperatures of material being compressed

Usually you can obtain the heat transfer requirements from the compressor supplier.

Depending on the type of exchanger, step 2 could be 288 K. That information is also needed.
 
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Vedward said:
Some items needed:
1) flow rate of glycol & sea water
2) material being compressed
3) inlet & outlet temperatures of material being compressed

Usually you can obtain the heat transfer requirements from the compressor supplier.

Depending on the type of exchanger, step 2 could be 288 K. That information is also needed.
The flow rate of water+glycol is 6,8 liter/s
The material been compressed is air, i don't know the inlet & outlet temperatures, but i know the max temperature of the air inlet is 313K but reference conditions is 293K.
Can you make an assumption of the rest of the values and show how to calculate the temperatures in step 3? Let's say step 2 is 300K(you can choose something else if you want to)
Thank you so much for the answer!
 
I looked in my old work files, it seems a 300 kW compressor needs about 20 kW cooling. This is from manufacturer's data, not computable from standard conditions. So the 6.8 l/s flow of glycol solution will be heated by 20 kW. When I was working, I did all my calculations in English units (actually American units, now since we are the only one using them nowadays), so you will have to calculate the temperature rise in K using the specific heat of the glycol solution, since I don't have this data in SI units.

V. Eddy
 
OP: Do you know the air flow rate? Have you given us all the information?
 

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