Calculations in regards to a car coming to a stop, help is needed.

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The discussion revolves around the physics of stopping distances for vehicles, specifically comparing speeds of 40 km/h and 50 km/h in a school zone. Participants are tasked with calculating stopping distances using the formula Vo ^ 2 / (2 x μ x g), where Vo is the initial velocity, μ is the friction coefficient, and g is the acceleration due to gravity.

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  • Participants discuss the need to convert units from km/h to m/s for accurate calculations. There are attempts to apply the stopping distance formula, with varying results leading to questions about the correctness of the calculations and the formula itself.

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Some participants have provided guidance on unit conversion and the correct application of the formula. There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations, with multiple interpretations of the formula's structure being discussed. The conversation reflects a collaborative effort to clarify misunderstandings without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a grade 11 physics assignment, which requires them to include calculations for stopping distances while adhering to specific guidelines regarding speed limits in school zones.

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I have been given a physics assignment which requires that I go over the physics of why 40km/h is a better speed to be followed in a school zone rather than 50km/h. (must include calculations for stopping distances etc.)

I used the formula Vo ^ 2 / 2 x μ x g.
It should give me the stopping distance if I am correct, Vo being the inital velocity, μ the friction coefficient and g for gravity. I first tried using 40km/h for Vo, .7 for μ and 9.8 for g.

40^2/2x.7x9.8

I use this and end up with 116.61...kilometres, this is evidently wrong and I am not sure what I am doing wrong as it should come out to 20-30 metres.
Can somebody please help?
Thanks.
(P.S I am in grade 11, so go easy on me :frown:)
 
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You forgot to convert km/hr into m/s. It is essential that units are consistent.
 
Oh that gives me an answer of 13.72, I feel stupid now. Thanks for the help!
 
connormaphone said:
Oh that gives me an answer of 13.72, I feel stupid now. Thanks for the help!
13.72 m? Show how you arrived at that answer.
 
40000^2/2x.7x9.8
Just realized this is wrong as well. I don't even know.
 
Actualy, just made it 11.1 m/s which does equal 40km/h, I put it into the equation and ended up with approximately 9 metres.
 
connormaphone said:
Actualy, just made it 11.1 m/s which does equal 40km/h, I put it into the equation and ended up with approximately 9 metres.
Now, you're talking! Looks Good!:smile:
And welcome to PF!
 
connormaphone said:
I have been given a physics assignment which requires that I go over the physics of why 40km/h is a better speed to be followed in a school zone rather than 50km/h. (must include calculations for stopping distances etc.)

I used the formula Vo ^ 2 / 2 x μ x g.
It should give me the stopping distance if I am correct, Vo being the inital velocity, μ the friction coefficient and g for gravity. I first tried using 40km/h for Vo, .7 for μ and 9.8 for g.

40^2/2x.7x9.8

I use this and end up with 116.61...kilometres, this is evidently wrong and I am not sure what I am doing wrong as it should come out to 20-30 metres.
Can somebody please help?
Thanks.
(P.S I am in grade 11, so go easy on me :frown:)

Your starting formula is incorrect. The μg should be in the denominator. That is the deceleration. The larger the deceleration, the shorter the stopping distance.

Chet
 
It is in the denominator. Parentheses would help, but I think it is in proper PEMDAS, per my recollect.
 
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Got it, thanks for the help guys!
 

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