What is the Time When the Particle Has Zero Acceleration?

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The discussion revolves around a particle's motion along the x-axis, defined by the position function x(t) = 5t/(10+7t^2). Participants are exploring how to determine the time at which the particle's acceleration is zero, focusing on the derivatives of the position function.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss taking derivatives of the position function to find velocity and acceleration, with some attempting to factor expressions. Questions arise regarding the application of the quotient rule versus the product rule and the implications of not expanding terms during differentiation.

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There is ongoing exploration of the correct application of differentiation techniques, with some participants providing guidance on maintaining the structure of expressions to simplify calculations. Multiple interpretations of the results are being examined, particularly concerning the factorization of the resulting equations.

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Participants express uncertainty about their calculations and the methods used, indicating a need for clarification on the differentiation process and the handling of terms in the equations. There is a sense of urgency due to an upcoming midterm.

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A particle moves along the x-axis, its position at time t is given by
x(t)= 5t/(10+7t^2)

where t is >= 0 and measured in seconds and x is in meters

The acceleration of the particle equals 0 at time t = ?

I took the 1st derivative and got
i got v(t ) = 5(10-7t^2) / (10+7t^2)^2

or i got v(t ) = 5(10-7t^2) * (10+7t^2)^-2

then i took the derivative of that and got:

a(t ) = 5[(10-7t^2)(-2)(10+7t^2)^(-3) *(14t) + (10+7t^2)^2 *(10-7t^2)]

so i tried factoring out (10-7t^2), to get one answer which i got as sqrt(10/7)

and then for the other answer i got:
(10+7t^2)^5 = 28t

which i simplified to:
2401t^8 + 13720t^6 + 29400t^4 + 28000t^2 - 28t + 10000 = 0

now I'm not sure if I'm on the right track, and if I am, I'm not sure how I can solve for t.

Any help is much appreciated, I've been working on this (my first problem) for about an hour and I have a midterm in a few days :s

thanks
 
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Destrio said:
v(t ) = 5(10-7t^2) * (10+7t^2)^-2

then i took the derivative of that and got:

a(t ) = 5[(10-7t^2)(-2)(10+7t^2)^(-3) *(14t) + (10+7t^2)^2 *(10-7t^2)]

Just keep the powers of (10+7t^2)^2 in the denominator like you did when calculating v. The numerator is then easy to factorize.
 
the numerator will still end up being 2401t^8 + 13720t^6 + 29400t^4 + 28000t^2 - 28t + 10000
if i make a common denomintor with the two terms
ahhh
 
Don't write out the brackets, that's going to be horrible. If you never write out the brackets in your calculations you'll end up with a form that's already quite nicely factorized.

If you apply to quotient rule to:
5(10-7t^2)/(10+7t^2)^2
without expanding, you get (10+7t^2)^4 in the denominator right? YOu'r numerator will not be too bad either. Just look for common terms.
 
what do you mean don't write out the brackets?

applying the quotient rule i got:
5[(10+7t^2)^2 *(-14t) - (10-7t^2)(2)(10+7t^2)(14t)]/(10+7t^2)^4

so I can factor out 14t
and 10+7t^2

will my two terms be
10+7t^2
and
10-7t^2
?

thanks
 
why did I get something different from when I used to product rule?
or were they equivalent but arranged differently?
 
You made a small error when using the product rule. The last answer you gave using the qoutient rule is correct and it should be easy finding the zero's now.
 

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