Calculus 3 vector analysis question (Newton's 2nd problem)

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The discussion centers on a vector analysis problem from Thomas' Calculus 11th Edition, specifically regarding the force on an object of mass m traveling along the parabola y = x² at a constant speed of 10 units/sec. The key equations involved include the acceleration components atT and anN, with the curvature kappa calculated at the point (0,0) yielding a value of 2. The confusion arises from the parameterization of the position vector r = ti + t²j, which contradicts the constant speed condition, leading to the conclusion that the correct parameterization should be r = x i + x² j.

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This problem was discussed in my calculus 3 class, and there is one step that I don't understand.

Homework Statement


An object of mass m travels along the parabola y = x[tex]^{2}[/tex] with a constant speed of 10 units/sec. What is the force on the object due to its acceleration at (0,0) (write the answer in terms of unit vectors i,j,k)? (this problem is from Thomas' calculus 11th edition, section 13.5 #20)

Homework Equations


f(x) = x[tex]^{2}[/tex]
a = atT + anN
at = d(|v|)/dt
an = [tex]kappa[/tex]|v|[tex]^{2}[/tex]
T = v/|v|
[tex]kappa[/tex] = |f''(x)|/((1+f'(x)[tex]^{2}[/tex])[tex]^{3/2}[/tex])
r = ti + t[tex]^{2}[/tex]j
=> v = i+2tj
=> |v| = (1+4t[tex]^{2}[/tex])[tex]^{1/2}[/tex]
N = (d(T)/dt)/(|d(T)/dt|)3. The Attempt at a Solution **** this was the solution presented in class:
at = 0 because d(10)/dt = 0
an = 100[tex]kappa[/tex]
[tex]kappa[/tex] = 2 at the point (0,0)
*******T = 1/((1+4t[tex]^{2}[/tex])[tex]^{1/2}[/tex]) (i+2tj)
T = i at the point (0,0)
N = j at the point (0,0)

=> F = ma = m(200)jThe step that I don't understand is marked with stars (Deriving T). Since the speed is given as 10 units/sec, shouldn't that be used as |v| rather than (1+4t[tex]^{2}[/tex])[tex]^{1/2}[/tex]? And if |v| = (1+4t[tex]^{2}[/tex])[tex]^{1/2}[/tex], doesn't this contradict the problem statement, which says that speed is constant? This makes little sense to me because we used different values for |v| throughout the problem
 
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The source of your problem is here:
chongj12 said:
r = ti + t[tex]^{2}[/tex]j
=> v = i+2tj
=> |v| = (1+4t[tex]^{2}[/tex])[tex]^{1/2}[/tex]
This parameterization conflicts with the given fact that the speed is constant. Since you are given that y=x2, you do know that
[tex]\boldsymbol r = x \hat{\boldsymbol i} + x^2\hat{\boldsymbol j}[/tex]
See where this leads you.
 

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