Calculus AB: Particle Speed Increase Intervals

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The problem involves determining the intervals during which the speed of a particle, described by the position function s(t) = 2t^3 - 24t^2 + 90t + 7, is increasing. The discussion centers around the concepts of speed and velocity in the context of calculus.

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  • Participants explore the distinction between speed and velocity, questioning whether the problem refers to the magnitude of speed or just speed itself. There is discussion about the implications of negative velocity and how it affects the interpretation of increasing speed.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the definitions involved and the reasoning behind the provided answer. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of speed as the absolute value of velocity, and the conditions under which speed is considered to be increasing.

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There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions made in the problem, particularly regarding the definitions of speed and velocity, and how these relate to the intervals identified in the original question.

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Homework Statement


The position of a particle moving along a line is given by s(t) = 2t^3 -24t^2 + 90t + 7 for t ≥ 0. For what values of t is the speed of the particle increasing?
(a) 3 < t < 4 only
(b) t > 4 only
(c) t > 5 only
(d) 0 < t < 3 and t > 5
(e) 3 < t < 4 and t > 5

Homework Equations


d/dx [k*x^n] = kn*x(n-1) power rule
d/dx [f(x) +- g(x)] = f'(x) +- g'(x)

The Attempt at a Solution


s(t) = 2t^3 -24t^2 + 90t + 7
find the derivative:
s'(t) = 6t^2 - 48t + 90
find the second derivative:
s''(t) = 12t - 48

Since the problem is asking for acceleration "For what values of t is the speed of the particle increasing?", we find the point of inflection and find the intervals.
s''(t) = 0
12t - 48 = 0
12(t - 4) = 0
t=4
Intervals: (0,4] and [4,infinity)
We plug in a number for each interval:
s''(1) = 12(1) -48
=12 - 48
=-36

s''(5) = 12(5) - 48
=60 - 48
=12

The values of t>4 are when the speed is increasing.

The problem is that the solution to this problem is (e) 3 < t < 4 and t > 5 and I don't know why?
 
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Hmm... Do you suppose the author of the question is thinking "magnitude of speed" rather than just speed?

A positive speed getting smaller is not speed getting bigger. This is certain. But is a negative speed getting more negative, is the speed increasing?
 
DEvens said:
Hmm... Do you suppose the author of the question is thinking "magnitude of speed" rather than just speed?

A positive speed getting smaller is not speed getting bigger. This is certain. But is a negative speed getting more negative, is the speed increasing?
Is that what your teacher had in mind when he/she asked that kind of problem?
 
icecubebeast said:
Is that what your teacher had in mind when he/she asked that kind of problem?

Oh, no. My physics teachers were perfect in every way. :wink:
 
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DEvens said:
Oh, no. My physics teachers were perfect in every way. :wink:
How about your calculus teacher? Did he/she ask that kind of problem?
 
icecubebeast said:
How about your calculus teacher? Did he/she ask that kind of problem?

Standard nomenclature is that speed = absolute value of velocity. Your ##s'(t)## is velocity ##v(t)##, not speed. If you plot the speed ##|s'(t)|## you will see how the book's answer arises.

If you want to do it without plotting, you need to be careful about when speed is increasing; this occurs if either (a) ##v(t) < 0## is decreasing, or (b) ##v(t) > 0## is increasing. Do you see why?
 
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Ray Vickson said:
Standard nomenclature is that speed = absolute value of velocity. Your ##s'(t)## is velocity ##v(t)##, not speed. If you plot the speed ##|s'(t)|## you will see how the book's answer arises.

If you want to do it without plotting, you need to be careful about when speed is increasing; this occurs if either (a) ##v(t) < 0## is decreasing, or (b) ##v(t) > 0## is increasing. Do you see why?
So speed is different in that increasing speed depends only on the magnitude of the increase of speed, and not dependent on direction?
 
icecubebeast said:
So speed is different in that increasing speed depends only on the magnitude of the increase of speed, and not dependent on direction?

No: increasing speed means increasing magnitude of velocity. If velocity is < 0 and is becoming < 0 at an even greater rate, speed increases; if velocity is > 0 and is becoming > 0 at an even greater rate, speed increases. Just think about velocity being > 0 if we are driving East and being < 0 if we are driving West, and think about what increasing speed means in both cases.
 

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