Calculus Based Textbook that isn't Halliday

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for calculus-based physics textbooks suitable for self-teaching Physics 1. Participants express their preferences and experiences with various texts, considering the depth, pace, and conceptual focus of the materials.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant finds Halliday's textbook slow and repetitive, seeking alternatives that are more engaging and less conceptual.
  • Another suggests Kleppner as a potentially useful resource, questioning the appropriateness of a book being too conceptual for an introductory class.
  • A participant recommends the 5 volume Berkeley Physics series, highlighting specific volumes and authors that may align better with the original poster's needs.
  • Further suggestions include other university physics series, such as The Manchester Physics Series and The MIT Physics Series, emphasizing the value of specialized texts written by experts in particular fields.
  • Some participants propose that the original poster should also consider applied mathematics books to enhance their mathematical skills alongside physics learning.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on suitable textbooks, with no consensus on a single recommended text. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to self-teaching Physics 1.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying opinions on the balance between conceptual understanding and mathematical rigor in physics texts, indicating a lack of agreement on what constitutes an ideal textbook for self-study.

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Hello all,

I am looking for a good calculus-based textbook to self-teach Physics 1 from. I have Halliday but I find it slow-going and too tedious for me, not in depth but in repetition. I have already taken a Physics 1 class at my school, but my school's physics department is rather dreadful and so I'd say I know less than a quarter of what would be covered in a normal high school physics course (AP that is).

On the other hand, my mathematical skills are quite good for my age, having completed all single-variable calculus and basic multivariable. As a result (or maybe seperate), I find Halliday too slow and Feynman's lectures too conceptual (though brilliant in their own right).

So I was hoping that I could be pointed towards a nice Physics textbook, the key thing being that it is Calculus based to the greatest extent possible.

Thank you.
 
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Kleppner may be of use. Of course, the point of an intro class is to learn the physics so a book being too conceptual seems odd.
 
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Take a look at the 5 volume Berkeley Physics series. They were used for honors freshman physics when I attended college, where the standard course for physics majors used Halliday and Resnick. It has been a long time, but I recall being pleased with vol. 1 (mechanics) which was authored by C. Kittel, who wrote classic texts on solid state physics. Vol. 2 (electricity and magnetism) is a widely acclaimed gem written by Nobel laureate E. Purcell. Thermal physics (vol. 4) by Reif is another standout--often referred to as "baby Reif" to differentiate it from his graduate level text. The series might be more to your tastes.
 
marcusl has it exactly.

Once you move on from Physics at the level of R & H the subject is offered in texts covering particular areas, often written by acknowledged experts in that field, as opposed to one gigantic text covering everything.

There are other good university physics series such as

The Manchester Physics Series
The MIT Physics Series

You should also be looking at the issue from another perspective - viz that of applied maths.
There are many good applied maths books that bridge the gap

Mathematical Methods for the Physical Sciences - Reilly
The Chemistry Maths book - Steiner

From what you have said, you will need to develop your maths skills along with your physics. Steiner is particularly good for taking you on to the next level.

go well
 

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