[Calculus]Hard continutity problem.

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In summary, the function G is discontinuous at each negative number and nonnegative rational number, but is continuous at each positive irrational number. This can be shown by examining the limit as x approaches different types of numbers, such as irrational, nonnegative rational, and positive irrational, and comparing it to the value of G at those numbers. In the case of irrational numbers, the limit and the value of G are equal, showing continuity. However, for negative numbers and nonnegative rational numbers, the limit does not match the value of G, indicating discontinuity.
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Homework Statement


Define [itex]G[/itex] as follows:

[itex]G(x) = \left\{
\begin{array}{c l}
x, & \mbox{if } x \mbox{ is irrational} \\
\sqrt{\frac{1+p^2}{1+q^2}}, & \mbox{if } x = \frac{p}{q} \mbox{where } gcd(p,q) = 1
\end{array}
\right.[/itex]

Show that [itex]G[/itex] is discontinuous at each negative number and also at each nonnegative rational number, but is continuous at each positive irrational number.

Homework Equations


[itex]\lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x) = f(a)[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution


I found this question in an old calculus book at the end of the limits and continuity section.
I tried the approach using [itex]\lim_{x \rightarrow a} G(x) = G(a)[/itex] and trying the different cases for [itex]a[/itex] and it makes sense intuitively but I'm thinking and epsilon-delta approach is what is needed here. Any help?
 
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Show what your reasoning is so far.
 
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Sorry I didn't put it before. It takes a while to post from my phone.

I first test the case where x goes to an irrational number. Say b.
G(b) = b, so now we must look at the limit as x--->b of G(x).
My reasoning is that there is rationals around G(b) that approach this value as x gets closer and closer to b.

So for nonnegative irrationals continuity holds.

For the cases of positive or negative rationals we let wlog some number r = s/t where s and t are coprime.

Then G(r) = √(1+s^2)/(1+t^2). Now the limit as x--->r of G(x) wouldn't exist as x has to go through irrational values as it gets closer to r from either positive or negative side. So it wouldn't be continuous as
lim as x--->r of G(x) is not equal to G(r).
 
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