[Calculus]Hard continutity problem.

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The function G defined as G(x) = x for irrational x and G(x) = √((1+p²)/(1+q²)) for rational x (where gcd(p,q) = 1) is discontinuous at all negative numbers and nonnegative rational numbers, while it is continuous at all positive irrational numbers. The analysis confirms that the limit of G(x) as x approaches a rational number does not equal G(r), due to the presence of irrational numbers in the vicinity, leading to discontinuity. The epsilon-delta approach is essential for rigorously proving these continuity properties.

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Homework Statement


Define G as follows:

G(x) = \left\{<br /> \begin{array}{c l}<br /> x, &amp; \mbox{if } x \mbox{ is irrational} \\<br /> \sqrt{\frac{1+p^2}{1+q^2}}, &amp; \mbox{if } x = \frac{p}{q} \mbox{where } gcd(p,q) = 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right.

Show that G is discontinuous at each negative number and also at each nonnegative rational number, but is continuous at each positive irrational number.

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\lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x) = f(a)

The Attempt at a Solution


I found this question in an old calculus book at the end of the limits and continuity section.
I tried the approach using \lim_{x \rightarrow a} G(x) = G(a) and trying the different cases for a and it makes sense intuitively but I'm thinking and epsilon-delta approach is what is needed here. Any help?
 
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Show what your reasoning is so far.
 
Sorry I didn't put it before. It takes a while to post from my phone.

I first test the case where x goes to an irrational number. Say b.
G(b) = b, so now we must look at the limit as x--->b of G(x).
My reasoning is that there is rationals around G(b) that approach this value as x gets closer and closer to b.

So for nonnegative irrationals continuity holds.

For the cases of positive or negative rationals we let wlog some number r = s/t where s and t are coprime.

Then G(r) = √(1+s^2)/(1+t^2). Now the limit as x--->r of G(x) wouldn't exist as x has to go through irrational values as it gets closer to r from either positive or negative side. So it wouldn't be continuous as
lim as x--->r of G(x) is not equal to G(r).
 
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