Calculus II U-Substitution Questions

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This thread discusses various approaches to solving question 6 from a Calculus II assignment, specifically focusing on integration techniques such as u-substitution and partial fractions. Participants share their solutions for parts 6a, 6b, and 6c, and seek confirmation on their results.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims to have solved 6a as 1/4 arcsin (x^2 / 2) + c using u = x^2.
  • Another participant reports a solution for 6b as (x^2)/2 - 2ln(x^2 + 4) + c after using algebraic division with u = x^2 + 4.
  • For 6c, one participant suggests using u = √(x) and mentions that the numerator should be smaller than the denominator for partial fractions to be applicable, arriving at 2√(x) + 2ln(√x - 2) - 2ln(√x + 2) + c.
  • Another participant provides a detailed step-by-step solution for 6c, confirming the use of substitution and partial fractions, and expresses surprise at missing the substitution initially.
  • Some participants inquire about confirming the results for 6a and 6b, suggesting differentiation of the results to check if they yield the original integrand.
  • A later reply introduces a different approach for 6a using a trigonometric substitution, leading to a potential correction of an earlier claim.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the correctness of their solutions for 6a and 6b, with some seeking confirmation. There are competing approaches to solving these integrals, and the discussion remains unresolved as participants explore different methods.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the correctness of their solutions, and there are indications of potential errors in the calculations, particularly in the differentiation step for 6a.

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This thread is only addressing question 6.

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6a and 6b seemed relatively simple, with 6c seeming to be the most troublesome. I got 1/4 arcsin (x^2 / 2 ) + c for 6a after substituting u for x^2.
As for 6b, I got (x^2)/2 -2ln(x^2 +4) + c after using algebraic division and taking u=x^2 + 4.

Finally, for 6c, I took u as √(x), followed by algebraic division since the nominator should always be smaller than the denominator in order for partial fractions to be usable. This gave me 2√(x) + 2ln(√x -2 ) - 2ln(√x + 2) + c.
 
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ardentmed said:
This thread is only addressing question 6.

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6a and 6b seemed relatively simple, with 6c seeming to be the most troublesome. I got 1/4 arcsin (x^2 / 2 ) + c for 6a after substituting u for x^2.
As for 6b, I got (x^2)/2 -2ln(x^2 +4) + c after using algebraic division and taking u=x^2 + 4.

Finally, for 6c, I took u as √(x), followed by algebraic division since the nominator should always be smaller than the denominator in order for partial fractions to be usable. This gave me 2√(x) + 2ln(√x -2 ) - 2ln(√x + 2) + c.

6.c)

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} \int{ \frac{\sqrt{x}\,\mathrm{d}x}{x - 4}} &= \int{ \frac{\sqrt{x}\,\mathrm{d}x}{ \left( \sqrt{x} \right) ^2 - 4 } } \\ &= \int{ \frac{ \left( \sqrt{x} \right) ^2 \, \mathrm{d}x}{ \sqrt{x} \, \left[ \left( \sqrt{x} \right) ^2 - 4 \right] } } \\ &= 2 \int{ \frac{ \left( \sqrt{x} \right) ^2}{ \left( \sqrt{x} \right) ^2 - 4 } \, \left( \frac{1}{2\,\sqrt{x}} \right) \, \mathrm{d}x } \end{align*}$

Now substitute $\displaystyle \begin{align*} u = \sqrt{x} \implies \mathrm{d}u = \frac{1}{2\,\sqrt{x}} \, \mathrm{d}x \end{align*}$ and the integral becomes

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} \int{ \frac{ \left( \sqrt{x} \right) ^2 }{ \left( \sqrt{x} \right) ^2 - 4} \, \left( \frac{1}{2\,\sqrt{x} } \right) \, \mathrm{d}x } &= \int{ \frac{u^2}{u^2 - 4} \, \mathrm{d}u } \\ &= \int{ \frac{u^2 - 4 + 4}{u^2 - 4} \, \mathrm{d}u } \\ &= \int{ 1 + \frac{4}{u^2 - 4}\, \mathrm{d}u} \end{align*}$

I think you can go from here, you should use partial fractions.
 
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6.c)

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} \int{ \frac{\sqrt{x}\,\mathrm{d}x}{x - 4}} &= \int{ \frac{\sqrt{x}\,\mathrm{d}x}{ \left( \sqrt{x} \right) ^2 - 4 } } \\ &= \int{ \frac{ \left( \sqrt{x} \right) ^2 \, \mathrm{d}x}{ \sqrt{x} \, \left[ \left( \sqrt{x} \right) ^2 - 4 \right] } } \\ &= 2 \int{ \frac{ \left( \sqrt{x} \right) ^2}{ \left( \sqrt{x} \right) ^2 - 4 } \, \left( \frac{1}{2\,\sqrt{x}} \right) \, \mathrm{d}x } \end{align*}$

Now substitute $\displaystyle \begin{align*} u = \sqrt{x} \implies \mathrm{d}u = \frac{1}{2\,\sqrt{x}} \, \mathrm{d}x \end{align*}$ and the integral becomes

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} \int{ \frac{ \left( \sqrt{x} \right) ^2 }{ \left( \sqrt{x} \right) ^2 - 4} \, \left( \frac{1}{2\,\sqrt{x} } \right) \, \mathrm{d}x } &= \int{ \frac{u^2}{u^2 - 4} \, \mathrm{d}u } \\ &= \int{ \frac{u^2 - 4 + 4}{u^2 - 4} \, \mathrm{d}u } \\ &= \int{ 1 + \frac{4}{u^2 - 4}\, \mathrm{d}u} \end{align*}$

I think you can go from here, you should use partial fractions.
Wow, I completely missed that simple substitution and it was right in front of me the entire time. Thanks a ton!
 
Can anyone confirm a and b as well?

Thanks again.
 
ardentmed said:
Can anyone confirm a and b as well?

Thanks again.

Have you tried differentiating your results to see if you get back to the original integrand?
 
MarkFL said:
Have you tried differentiating your results to see if you get back to the original integrand?

Yes, but a came out with an extra 1/4 in front of the expression.
 
well, let's look at 6a). we are given to evaluate:

$$I=\int\frac{x}{\sqrt{4-x^4}}\,dx$$

Let:

$$x^2=2\sin(\theta)\,\therefore\,x\,dx=\cos(\theta)\,d\theta$$

and we now have:

$$I=\frac{1}{2}\int\,d\theta=\frac{1}{2}\theta+C$$

Back-substitute for $\theta$:

$$I=\frac{1}{2}\sin^{-1}\left(\frac{x^2}{2}\right)+C$$

Do you see where you may have gone wrong?
 

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