Calorimetry, calculating for mass

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The problem involves calculating the mass of water required to cool iron parts from 600°F to 200°F, using principles of calorimetry. The original poster presents an equation relating the heat lost by the iron to the heat gained by the water, while expressing concerns about temperature conversions and the setup of the equation.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the heat transfer equation but questions the accuracy of their temperature conversions and the assumptions made regarding the mass of the iron. Other participants seek clarification on specific temperature values used in the calculations and the treatment of the mass of the iron part.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding temperature conversions, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or values to use in the calculations.

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Participants are working under the assumption that all heat transfer occurs without loss and that the mass of the iron is a variable that needs to be determined. There is also a focus on converting temperature differences from Fahrenheit to Celsius accurately.

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Hi, here is the problem that I'm having trouble with.

It is desired to cool iron parts from 600°F to 200°F by dropping them into water that is initially at 55°F. Assuming that all the heat from the iron is transferred to the water and that none of the water evaporates, how many kilograms of water are needed per kilogram of iron?

I've used this equation:

mass of iron parts * specific heat of iron * change in temp. of iron parts = mass of water * specific heat of water * change in temp. of water

I first calculated the change in temperature of the iron parts and converted it to degree Celsius by 200F - 600F = 400F and then 400F*(5/9), which yields -222.

I plugged in the values as thus:

m*448 J/(kgC)* -222C = m*4186 J/(kgC)* 222C.

I've got a sneaking suspicion that it's because of the right side of my equation dealing with water. I think that somehow my scale is wrong, the 222C. But if all the heat released by the iron is transferred to the water with no loss, then the scale would be correct, wouldn't it?
 
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Heat lost by the iron part = heat gained by the water.
1*448 J/(kgC)* 222C = m*4186 J/(kgC)* 80.6C.
 
I don't understand how you got the 80.6C. Could you explain that, please?
 
And also, why did the mass of the iron part become merely "1"? Wouldn't the mass be unknown?
 
how many kilograms of water are needed per kilogram of iron?
Initial temperature of water 55F and final teperature of water is 200F
Convert this difference into C
 
Thank you very much! I simply forgot to apply the formula for conversion of temperature units for the change in temperature. I understand perfectly now. Thank you~!
 

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