Can a DC Current Replicate the Glow of Hydrogen Peroxide in Glow Sticks?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the potential for a direct current (DC) to replicate the glow produced by hydrogen peroxide in glow sticks. Participants explore the mechanisms behind glow stick luminescence and consider alternative methods for exciting fluorescent dyes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Kateman, suggests that the decomposition of hydrogen peroxide provides electrons that excite the fluorescent dye, leading to the glow of glow sticks.
  • Another participant challenges this understanding, stating that the chemistry does not involve stray electrons and emphasizes that there are various methods to excite fluorescent dyes.
  • A later reply indicates that while electric fields can excite certain dyes, the participant has not encountered glow sticks being reactivated by electric fields, although heat has been mentioned as a method to reignite them.
  • Participants discuss the possibility of using voltage-sensitive dyes, particularly in the context of cell biology and neuroscience, as a means to achieve fluorescence in the presence of an electric field.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanism of glow stick luminescence and whether a DC current can replicate the glow. There is no consensus on the effectiveness of using electric fields or currents to excite fluorescent dyes.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the chemistry of glow sticks and the nature of fluorescent dyes remain unaddressed, and the discussion does not resolve the specifics of which dyes may be suitable for excitation via electric fields.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring the chemistry of luminescence, the properties of fluorescent dyes, and potential applications in experimental setups involving electric fields.

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So from my understanding of glow sticks, the decomposition of hydrogen peroxide provides electrons that excites the fluorescent dye and gives off that classical glow-stick light source.

My question is, could one put a DC current over the solution and still theoretically obtain the same result? If not, what could be done to achieve it from the glow stick dye [other than to put more hydrogen peroxide in there]?

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Kateman
 
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So from my understanding of glow sticks, the decomposition of hydrogen peroxide provides electrons that excites the fluorescent dye
... that would not be a good understanding of how a glowstick works. Looking at the chemistry I don't see stray electrons there.

The other side of your question though: there are lots of ways to excite a florescent dye. You can certainly find a dye that will be excited in the presence of an electric field.

I take it you have used-up glow-sticks you'd like to see glow again?
I have not heard of them getting exited in electric fields. I have heard you can get them to light up again using heat. Not tried.
 
Simon Bridge said:
...there are lots of ways to excite a florescent dye. You can certainly find a dye that will be excited in the presence of an electric field.

Thanks Simon, much appreciated - can you please give an example of a dye that could do this with either an electric field or current? I tried looking it up, but did not return anything useful.
 
More like you'd look for voltage sensitive dyes - they are used in cell biology and neuroscience. iirc: usually some kind of florescing protein.

You'd put a vial of your dye between two charged plates :)
 

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