Can a moving observer detect a magnetic field from a stationary electric charge?

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The discussion revolves around whether a moving observer can detect a magnetic field generated by a stationary electric charge. Participants explore the implications of motion relative to electric charges and the conditions under which magnetic fields can be observed or measured, with a focus on real-life experiments rather than theoretical scenarios.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests credible sources for real-life experiments where a moving observer detects a magnetic field around a stationary electric charge, referencing a previous experiment involving a Hall effect sensor that did not yield convincing results.
  • Another participant questions the distinction between measuring a magnetic field and literally seeing it, suggesting clarification on what is meant by "seeing" a magnetic field.
  • Some participants propose that moving charges produce magnetic fields, citing basic experiments with wires, batteries, and compasses as evidence of this phenomenon.
  • There is a discussion about whether the results would differ if the charge is considered stationary in the local frame, raising questions about the observer's reference frame and its impact on the detection of magnetic fields.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the ability of a moving observer to detect magnetic fields from stationary charges, and the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the matter.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached consensus on the definitions of "seeing" versus "measuring" a magnetic field, nor on the implications of reference frames in the context of electric charges and magnetic fields.

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Can anybody provide me with a link to a REAL life experiment (a credible source, and not a thought experiment. ) when a moving observer relative to an electric charge can see a magnetic field? I'm thinking to a sensor that is spinning around an electrically charged sphere or disc...if in REAL life will see or not an magnetic field?
I'm asking because i learned of an similar experiment where the Hall effect sensor did not measured any magnetic field while spinning around a stationary charged disc, but the website wasn't too convincing... Thanks!
 
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Do you mean measure a magnetic field? Or literally see a magnetic field?
 
If you agree that electric current is due to charges in motion, then all you need is some wire, a battery, and a compass and you can see for yourself that moving charges produce magnetic fields.
 
DaveC426913 said:
Do you mean measure a magnetic field? Or literally see a magnetic field?

Sense the presence of a magnetic field, ("see" and measure the Lorentz force upon a test charge). So, is there a magnetic field "observed" from a moving observer point of view that is moving around an electrically charged body that is considered stationary to the, let's say, laboratory (where the experiment its made...) reference frame, or what, you know what i mean...? Is there any credible experience done in this matter?
 
MaxwellsDemon said:
If you agree that electric current is due to charges in motion, then all you need is some wire, a battery, and a compass and you can see for yourself that moving charges produce magnetic fields.
...but what if we have different results if the charge is considered stationary (in the local frame)?
 
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