Can a Perfectly Black Object Absorb All Light and Create a Blank Spot in Vision?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of perfectly black objects, particularly in relation to light absorption and perception. Participants explore the concept of a perfect black body, the implications for vision, and the behavior of various display technologies in producing black images.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a perfectly black object would absorb 100% of the light that hits it, potentially resulting in no activation of rods/cones in the observer's retina, creating a blank spot in vision.
  • It is noted that perfect black bodies do not exist outside of theoretical constructs like black holes, but the concept is discussed in terms of light absorption.
  • Participants discuss how different display technologies (like plasma and LCD) produce black, with plasma TVs turning off pixels and LCDs blocking emitted light.
  • One participant raises a question about CRT screens appearing dark grey when off and turning black when on, speculating about optical illusions or internal light sources.
  • There is mention of the limitations in achieving a truly non-reflective surface, with current technology only reaching about 0.3% reflectiveness.
  • Some participants explore the idea of creating images that appear solid through reflective surfaces and question whether this could relate to holography.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the nature of perfect black objects and the mechanisms behind display technologies. There is no consensus on the existence of a true perfect black object or the specifics of how displays achieve blackness.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the theoretical nature of perfect black bodies, the dependence on definitions of blackness in different contexts, and unresolved questions regarding the perception of black in various display technologies.

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This discussion may be of interest to those exploring optics, display technology, and the physics of light absorption and perception.

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Hi all. I have a couple questions regarding the “color” black.

First question, regarding reflected light:

Would a perfectly black object with no reflectiveness to its surface absorb 100% of the light that hits it? If so, would it activate no rods/cones on the observer’s retina whatsoever, and essentially be a blank spot in their vision that appears pure black? Is such a thing even possible (outside of a black hole)?

Second question, regarding emitted light:

I know that some TVs and other types of screens are capable of producing darker blacks than others. How can something that emits light emit black at all when it is actually the absence of light? Wouldn’t it just not activate its LEDs (if it’s an LED display) for the areas of the screen it wants to be darkest?

Thanks!
 
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coktail said:
Would a perfectly black object with no reflectiveness to its surface absorb 100% of the light that hits it? If so, would it activate no rods/cones on the observer’s retina whatsoever, and essentially be a blank spot in their vision that appears pure black? Is such a thing even possible (outside of a black hole)?

You're talking about what's known as a perfect black body. They don't actually exist, except possibly a black hole, but you are correct. It would absorb all radiation falling on it and you would not be able to see it at all except as a dark spot.

I don't know the answer to your 2nd question.
 
Question #2 got my interest. I've seen CRT screens that look dark grey when turned off. But when I turn the computer on, the screen actually turns black. How is that possible? Optical illusion? Or with the grey, and I getting light from inside the monitor, but that light is blocked when the screen turns on?As for the first question, we have not succeeded at making anything 0% reflective or 100% reflective. We've gotten down to 0.3% reflective, but you would still see some faint reflection on the surface, making it not true black. They can also put baffles on the surface so that light hitting the part you are looking at is reflected away from your eyes, so you don't see it. Or with a reflective surface, they can make an image appear right in front of you so that if your eyes are at just the right location, you will think you are looking at something solid.
 
Thanks for the reply, Stargazer!

Stargazer19385 said:
I've seen CRT screens that look dark grey when turned off. But when I turn the computer on, the screen actually turns black. How is that possible? Optical illusion? Or with the grey, and I getting light from inside the monitor, but that light is blocked when the screen turns on?

I don't see how there could be light coming from inside the monitor when it's off, but maybe when it's on, the pixels of the screen that block the light are actually a truer black than when they are completely off. I don't know if this is possible.

Stargazer19385 said:
Or with a reflective surface, they can make an image appear right in front of you so that if your eyes are at just the right location, you will think you are looking at something solid.

Would this be a hologram?
 

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