Can a Rational Point Always be Found Amongst a Set of Points in the XY-Plane?

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of finding a rational point in relation to a finite set of points in the XY-plane, specifically focusing on the distances between these points and a potential point p.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the implications of having both rational and irrational coordinates among the points and question the conditions under which a rational distance can be maintained. There are attempts to visualize the problem using geometric constructs like circles and line segments.

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Some participants are actively questioning the assumptions of the original problem and exploring various interpretations. There is a recognition of the complexity of the question, with some expressing uncertainty about how to approach it effectively.

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One participant notes that the problem may be deeper than it initially seems, and there is mention of the Euclidean metric being used, which may impose additional constraints on the discussion.

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Given n points n1,...,nk in the xy-plane, is it always possible to find a point p such that d(ni,p) is rational for 0<i<k+1?
 
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What if one point is (x1,0), with x1 rational, and the other is (x2,0), with x2 irrational?
 
Draw a line segment AB between (x1,0) and (x2,0) and a line L bisecting the line segment AB perpenticularly.
 
um...either I'm misinterpreting the OP or the answer can be seen by drawing a circle radius p/q (where p/q is rational) around any of the points (with the point as the center).
 
daveb said:
um...either I'm misinterpreting the OP or the answer can be seen by drawing a circle radius p/q (where p/q is rational) around any of the points (with the point as the center).

Perhaps you are misinterpreting. The question was whether, given a finite set of points, there exist a point p such that its distance to every point in the set is rational. Certainly every point on the circumference of your circle has rational distance (p/q) from the center, but what about the other points in the set?
 
I've tried everything I know. I don't know how to produce an answer.
 
Was this given to you as an assignment, or did you just think of it yourself? It may be a much deeper question than it appears.
 
A friend sent this 'funny problem' that he got from a 'funny book'. I brought it to the Canadian undergraduate math conference last week and everyone was stumped.

EDIT: Oh and d is the Euclidean metric. No cheating.
 
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