Can a Totally Bounded Metric Space Be Non-Compact?

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of totally bounded metric spaces and compactness, specifically seeking an example of a totally bounded metric space that is not compact. Participants are exploring definitions and implications of these concepts within the context of metric spaces.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the distinction between total boundedness and compactness, questioning whether the union of open balls constitutes a finite open cover. They reference the interval (0,1) as a potential example but express confusion regarding its compactness. Other participants introduce the unit ball in infinite dimensions, discussing its properties related to boundedness and total boundedness.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering insights and raising questions about the properties of metric spaces. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between compactness, completeness, and total boundedness, but no consensus has been reached on specific examples or definitions.

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Participants are grappling with definitions and implications of total boundedness and compactness, noting that open sets may not be sequentially compact. There is mention of specific examples and counterexamples, indicating a need for clarity on these concepts.

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Homework Statement


Give an example of a totally bounded metric space which is not compact


Homework Equations


Def: A metric space X is totally bounded if for each e > 0, there exists a finite number of open balls of radius e that cover X

Def: A metric space X is compact if every open cover has a finite sub cover. I other words, X is compact if, whenever {Ualpha}alpha in A is an open cover of X, there are finitely many Ualpha's such that X is a subset of Ualpha1 u Ualpha2 u ...u Ualpham


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Suppose we had a metric space X that obeyed the first def. The for every e > 0, there's a finite set of open balls with radius e that covers X.

Question is, if we take the union of these balls, is that not a finite, open cover of X? I guess, I am not not exactly seeing what the difference is between compact and totally bounded. I think (0,1) with the standard Euclidean metric works (according to the back of the book, any bounded subset of Rn would work). But still not exactly seeing how it does.

In my class notes, I have it showing that (0,1) is contained in the U(1/ni, 1-1/ni) but is not contained in (1/N, 1-1/N) for any N, maybe I am not understanding my notes, but (1/N, 1-1/N) for any N sounds like one specific subset of U(1/ni, 1-1/ni), which is in a way a union of subsets of U(1/ni, 1-1/ni), but what about any other union of subsets of U(1/ni, 1-1/ni), namely U(1/ni, 1-1/ni) itself.
 
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Think about the unit ball in infinite dimensions...
 
Unit ball in infinite dimensions won't be totally bounded :frown:

In fact, a metric space is compact iff it is complete and totally bounded. So, can you come up with an easy space that is not complete?
 
Really? The unit ball in infinite dimensions isn't bounded?
 
hunt_mat said:
Really? The unit ball in infinite dimensions isn't bounded?

It is bounded for sure, but not totally bounded!
 
Hmmm, interesting.

Metric spaces is a little rusty...
 
open, totally bounded sets aren't compact, because compactness is equivalent to sequential compactness, and open sets aren't sequentially compact, bounded or no (Very easy to prove). You can probably prove it using the open cover definition of compactness - something about how for every point in your set, there is an infinite number of points closer to the limit point (which is excluded by definition),
So for delta small enough, you can manage to get an infinite number of points between the delta neighbourhood of any point x, and the limit point, that aren't included in your cover...
(Very sketchy, missing a several important steps, but probably the gist of the proof...)
 
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Ratpigeon said:
open, totally bounded sets aren't compact, because compactness is equivalent to sequential compactness, and open sets aren't sequentially compact, bounded or no (Very easy to prove).

The empty set is sequentially compact. Also there are many metric spaces in which some nonempty open sets are compact (example: any compact metric space. More generally, any locally compact metric space with a compact connected component).

Edit: sorry, I forgot the local compactness condition the first time around.
 
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