Can a triangle be formed with these length constraints?

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of forming a triangle with sides 3, 3r, and 3r², where 'r' is a real number greater than the Golden Ratio (approximately 1.618). The participants utilize the Triangle Inequality Theorem to analyze the conditions under which these side lengths can form a triangle. Ultimately, it is concluded that the statement is true; for any 'r' greater than the Golden Ratio, the sides can indeed form a triangle.

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Homework Statement


There is a triangle with sides $$ 3,3r,3r^2 $$ such that 'r' is a real number strictly greater than the Golden Ratio.
Is this statement true or false...?

Homework Equations


$$Golden \space Ratio = \phi = 1.618... $$

The Attempt at a Solution


Actually I have no clue at all how to approach to this kind of question.
 
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Nipuna Weerasekara said:

Homework Statement


There is a triangle with sides $$ 3,3r,3r^2 $$ such that 'r' is a real number strictly greater than the Golden Ratio.
Is this statement true or false...?

Homework Equations


$$Golden \space Ratio = \phi = 1.618... $$

The Attempt at a Solution


Actually I have no clue at all how to approach to this kind of question.

When I give you 3 line segments with a random length, can you make a triangle with it?
 
Math_QED said:
When I give you 3 line segments with a random length, can you make a triangle with it?
I guess so
 
Take a paper, try to make a triangle with sides 1cm, 1cm and 10cm. Show us the triangle you found.
 
Actually there is a theorem called triangle inequality theorem, which states given ABC triangle, which has a,b,c length sides a+b>c , a+c>b and b+c>a must be true. therefore no need to show it to you that I can't create a triangle out of those sides 1,1 and 10.
 
Actually this gives me an idea how to approach the question.
i can try to get a result for r by solving three inequalities
$$3r^2 +3 > 3r$$ $$3r^2+3r>3$$ $$3+3r>3r^2$$
 
Eventually one inequality leads that r has a complex variance. (by solving 3r^2 +3 > 3r)
 
Nipuna Weerasekara said:
Eventually one inequality leads that r has a complex variance. (by solving $$3r^2 +3 > 3r$$)
Is,'t that trvially satisfied?
 
micromass said:
Is,'t that trvially satisfied?
I don't get what you say here.
 
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But in a sense I can say that r is not strictly a real number hence the statement is false... Am I right?
 
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No I was wrong all along... I solved it. The statement is true. All r is real and greater than Golden Ratio (1.61803)...
 
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Nipuna Weerasekara said:
The statement is true. All r is real and greater than Golden Ratio (1.61803)...
So ##r=10## is obviously greater than ##\phi## and you've found a triangle with sides ##3, 30## and ##300##?
Which curvature do you assume your geometry has?
 

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