Can any element be photodisintegrated

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the concept of photodisintegration, specifically whether any element can undergo this process and the conditions under which it occurs. Participants explore the characteristics of various elements, isotopes, and the energy requirements for photodisintegration, including potential exceptions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that almost all elements can be photodisintegrated, with exceptions noted for hydrogen and certain actinides.
  • It is proposed that hydrogen is the only stable atom that cannot be photodisintegrated, although deuterium may be photodisintegrated under specific energy conditions.
  • There is a distinction made between photodisintegration and other high-energy reactions, such as those involving quark interactions.
  • Some participants assert that all stable isotopes can be photodisintegrated, with gamma rays of appropriate energy facilitating transmutation.
  • Photo-spallation is mentioned as a possible process requiring high-energy gamma rays, with specific energy ranges provided for gamma emissions in nuclear reactors.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the nature of photodisintegration, emphasizing that it typically results in the separation of nucleons into multiple daughter nuclei.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the capabilities of hydrogen regarding photodisintegration, with some asserting it cannot undergo the process while others discuss the conditions under which deuterium can. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent to which all stable isotopes can be photodisintegrated and the specific mechanisms involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various energy thresholds and types of reactions, indicating that the discussion is dependent on specific conditions and definitions related to photodisintegration and nuclear reactions.

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Can any element be photodisintegrated or are there certain elements that can't be photodisintegrated?
 
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Reading around, looks like almost all can be photodisintegrated, but actinides and short-half life isotopes may photofission at a lower energy...

Um, with the exception of hydrogen, though wiki reckons "A photon carrying 2.22 MeV or more energy can photodisintegrate an atom of deuterium"
 
Are you saying hydrogen is the only
Stable atom that can't be photodisintegrated.
 
As I understand it, not until you get to energies that shake the proton's quarks loose and 'make soup'.
That's a very different process to knocking one or more neutrons, protons, or an alpha particle out of a juicy target nucleus...
 
So all stable isotopes can be photodisintegrated?
 
David lopez said:
So all stable isotopes can be photodisintegrated?
Any nuclide can be transmuted by a gamma ray of appropriate energy, usually a photoneutron reaction, or photo-fission for actinide elements. Photo-spallation is possible, but it requires high energy gammas. Gamma energies in nuclear reactors have energies from keV to ~10 MeV, with a small number/fraction between 10 and 12 MeV.

The following paper discusses experiments using 60 to 1100 MeV gammas from brehmsstrahlung.
https://inis.iaea.org/collection/NCLCollectionStore/_Public/34/018/34018209.pdf
 
Photodisintegration separates the nucleons in the nucleus into multiple (typically 2) daughter nuclei. There is no way to arrange a single object into multiple groups, so you can't have photodisintegration with hydrogen-1.
There are still reactions at very high energies - ##p + \gamma \to p + \pi^0## is a notable one as it limits the energy of protons in cosmic rays (GKZ limit).
Astronuc said:
brehmsstrahlung
bremsstrahlung
 
mfb said:
Photodisintegration separates the nucleons in the nucleus into multiple (typically 2) daughter nuclei. There is no way to arrange a single object into multiple groups, so you can't have photodisintegration with hydrogen-1.
There are still reactions at very high energies - ##p + \gamma \to p + \pi^0## is a notable one as it limits the energy of protons in cosmic rays (GKZ limit).
bremsstrahlung
It´´ s not transmutation, though.
You obviously can have reactions like
##p + \gamma \to d + nˇ ##
but it does not compete all that well against
##p + \gamma \to p + n + nˇ ##
 

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