Can Benzene and its Derivatives Conduct Electricity?

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The discussion centers on the electrical conductivity of benzene and its derivatives, exploring the role of delocalized electrons and the structural requirements for conductivity in carbon-based compounds. Participants examine theoretical and practical aspects of benzene-like structures and carbon chains.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that benzene can conduct electricity due to delocalized electrons, although they acknowledge their elementary knowledge of chemistry.
  • Another participant argues that benzene cannot conduct electricity like metals because the electrons are not delocalized between molecules, stating that a current would not be usable.
  • A participant mentions the necessity of a chain of sp2 carbons forming a conjugated pi system for conductivity, inviting further elaboration on its uses and efficiency.
  • One reply asserts that a benzene-like ring without hydrogen, with all double bonds or alternating single and triple bonds, can conduct electricity, referencing graphite as an example.
  • A participant confirms that polyacetylene, which has alternating single and double bonds, fits the description of a conductive carbon chain.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conductivity of benzene, with some asserting it cannot conduct electricity while others propose that certain carbon structures can. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific conditions under which these structures may conduct electricity.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying definitions of conductivity and the specific structural requirements for different carbon compounds. The discussion does not resolve the theoretical implications of conductivity in benzene and its derivatives.

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Hello, I have a few questions that have been on my mind. I am wondering, can benzene conduct electricity because of the delocalized electrons? I am certain that the answer is yes but my knowledge of chemistry at the moment is elementary.

If that answer is yes, can a benzene-like ring of carbon but with no hydrogen and either all double bounds or alternating single and triple bounds between the carbons be made and still conduct electricity?

Similar to the above, could a chain of carbon with an all double or alternating single and triple bounds conduct electricity?

Thank you for any help you can provide.
 
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L Tetris Block said:
can benzene conduct electricity because of the delocalized electrons?

No, they cannot. Benzene is different from a conducting metal in the fact that electrons are not delecolized between the molecules. Theoretically speaking, you might get a "current" going inside an individual molecule, but you wouldn't be able to use it in any way.

As a result, 2.) and 3.) would also be impossible.
 
You need a chain of sp2 carbons making a conjugated pi system.

I don't know anything beyond that, but maybe someone else could elaborate as to the uses and efficiency of such a system.
 
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L Tetris Block said:
(snip)... a benzene-like ring of carbon but with no hydrogen and either all double bounds or alternating single and triple bounds between the carbons be made and still conduct electricity?

Yes. It's called "graphite" (chicken wire).
Similar to the above, could a chain of carbon with an all double or alternating single and triple bounds conduct electricity?
(snip)

See "polyacetylene."
 
Polyacetylene has alternating single and double bonds, hence the chain of sp2 carbons I referred to.
 
Thanks for the help everyone, especially Bystander for providing the information.
 

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