Can Coal Deposits Explain the Fermi Paradox?

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The discussion explores the unique geological conditions that led to the formation of 90% of Earth's coal deposits during a brief period in the Carboniferous, suggesting that these conditions may be rare in the universe. It argues that coal was crucial for the industrial revolution and the development of technological civilizations, as it provided an easily exploitable energy source. While some participants question the necessity of coal for industrialization, pointing to alternative energy sources like wood and biofuels, others maintain that coal's unique properties made it indispensable for mass steel production. The conversation also touches on the implications of these factors for the Fermi Paradox, speculating that the absence of similar coal deposits on other planets could hinder the emergence of advanced civilizations. Ultimately, the debate highlights the uncertainty surrounding the evolution of technology in different planetary contexts.
  • #51
cybernetichero said:
The only reason Humans tamed fire in the first place was to keep warm in the cold weather. We feel uncomfortable in the cold the way a frog (for example) does not. An ectotherm would have no reason to desire fires in the first place and may just view them as a danger or a nuisance. All other uses are secondary to that primal need. If humans were cold blooded the stone age might never have ended.

That is clearly wrong. Modern civilization is in all aspects energy intensive ranging from transportation, manufacturing, lighting, etc. Invariably intelligent creatures would want greater control over their environment and expend resources to create an artificial climate.
 
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  • #52
The energy density (MJ/kg) of coal is ~25, wood is ~16 and oil is in the 40‘s. The US electricity generation is 63% fossil fuels, 20% nuclear and 18% renewable.

We went down a certain energy path. It is not clear that there are not others.
 
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Enough speculation. We cannot support speculation and un-cited claims about history "woulda-been". PF does not work that way.

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