Can Complex Analysis Techniques Split Double Poles into Isolated Singularities?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the possibility of using complex analysis techniques to split double poles of functions into isolated single poles. Participants explore various methods and implications of altering functions with double poles, particularly in the context of contour integrals and the behavior of poles in the complex plane.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Edwin G. Schasteen introduces the question of whether complex analysis techniques can split double poles into single isolated poles, using specific functions as examples.
  • One participant asserts that it is not possible to turn a double pole into two isolated single poles and questions the necessity of such an operation.
  • Another participant suggests that multiplying the function by another could generate new isolated poles while canceling the double poles, although this does not involve moving the original poles.
  • Edwin explains the motivation behind the inquiry, noting that contour integrals around double poles yield interesting results, unlike those around single poles, and expresses a desire to find a function that retains the real part of the original poles while introducing an imaginary component.
  • A suggestion is made to explore the Weierstrass product as a means to create an analytic function with zeros at specified locations, although the implications for residues at double poles remain unclear.
  • Another participant proposes representing the function as a limit of functions with two single poles, examining the behavior as a parameter approaches zero.
  • Hurkyl describes a deformation technique involving the multiplication and division of functions to introduce simple poles while removing the double poles, emphasizing that this technique is foundational in advanced mathematics.
  • Edwin expresses gratitude for the suggestions and indicates optimism about the proposed techniques.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a mix of agreement and disagreement. While some techniques are proposed and appreciated, there is no consensus on the feasibility of splitting double poles into isolated single poles, and the discussion remains open-ended with multiple competing views.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions and conditions regarding the behavior of poles and the applicability of certain techniques, which are not fully resolved. The implications of altering functions and the specific conditions under which proposed methods may work are also not definitively established.

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I'm glad to see that the physics forum website is back online.

Suppose you have a function with double poles somewhere on the complex plane. Are there complex analysis techniques that can be used to split the double pole into two single isolated poles?

Some example functions might be

f(z) = 1/(z - 2)^2

or

g(z) = csc(pi*z)*csc(2*pi*z) = 1/sin(pi*z)*1/sin(2*pi*z)
of the complex variable z = a + bi.


The 2nd function g(z) has doubles at all the integers, and single poles at all points 1/2 + n and 1/2 - n where n is an integer 1, 2, 3...etc.

Are there any techniques that can allow us to split the double poles at the integers of the 2nd function into isolated singularities off the real axis, while leaving the single poles on the real axis?

Inquisitively,

Edwin G. Schasteen
 
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You can't turn a double pole into two isolated single poles. Why would you need to though?

You can't really move poles either, you can do a change of variables but if the pole was on your path of integration before (for ecample) it still will be in the new variable.
 
True,

I was thinking along the lines of multiplying g(z) through by another function, or otherwise altering the function g(z). Multiplying the function changes the location where poles exist. It wouldn't actually be 'moving the poles,' it would generate two new isolated poles, while canceling the double poles.
 
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Oh, the reason is that I have another function of a similar form that has interesting information that is yielded by doing a contour integral around the double pole. Non-interesting values occurs at single poles. Problem is that the double poles, and uninteresting single poles all exist on the real line. The hope was to find a way to find a similar function that yields poles in the complex plane with coordinates real part the same as the old function's real part, but also with some imaginary part, so that one can do a contour integral in the complex plane real close to the real line and contain the "interesting point."
 
Look into the Weierstrass product, which let's you can form an analytic function with zeros at given locations (subject to some assumptions). This is more complicated than with polynomials where you have a finite number of zeros, but morally the same idea. You can then multiply by this function and remove your simple poles. This of course changes your residues at the double-poles and I have absolutely no idea whether whatever you have planned will work or not as your description was sufficiently vague that I have no other clue what to suggest.
 
Thankyou. I'll read up on the Weierstrass product and try it out to see if it works.
 
You could also write your function as a limit of functions with two single poles. e.g.

[tex] \lim_{d \rightarrow 0} \frac{1}{(z - 2 - di)(z - 2 + di)} = \frac{1}{(z - 2)^2}[/tex]

or maybe even study

[tex]\frac{1}{(z - 2 - di)(z - 2 + di)}[/tex]

itself, as a function of two variables, z and d. (And then look at what happens near d = 0) Or, to be more general, to study

[tex]\frac{1}{(z - a)(z - b)}[/tex]

as a function of three variables. And then look at what happens on (and near) the space a = b, or a = b = 2.
 
hurkyl has explained how to do it. just consider a function like
sin(piz-ti)sin(piz+ti) where t is a parameter, then multipy your function

g by sin^2(piz), to kill all the ples at the integers, and then divide it by

sin(pi(z-ti))sin(pi(z+ti)), to introduce simple poles at n ± ti.

the resulting function is a "deformation" of your original function, which converges to g as t approaches zero.


this sort of deformation technique is basic in all advanced mathematics, but for some reason is not taught much in beginning courses.
 
Hurkyl, Shmoe, and Mathwonk,

Thank you very much for your assistance. I think those techniques will all work!

Best Regards,

Edwin
 

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