Can Concentrated Light Create Gravity by Warping Space-Time?

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The discussion centers on whether concentrated light can create gravity by warping space-time, with participants debating the nature of photons and their relationship to mass and energy. While it is acknowledged that energy, including that carried by photons, can curve space-time, there is strong disagreement on the concept of "relativistic mass," which some argue leads to confusion. Participants emphasize that photons have zero invariant mass but do carry energy, which can have gravitational effects. The conversation also touches on how heating an object increases its energy, thereby affecting its gravitational mass, aligning with Einstein's equation E=mc². Ultimately, the consensus leans towards discussing energy and momentum rather than mass to avoid misunderstandings.
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This thread began with the question "Do photons curve space-time?" (or something to that effect). Let us not turn this into a discussion of Invariant vs. Relativistic mass.
 
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So finally is it possible to create a black hole in an arbit situation with the use of just light?
 
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Vaidya thought experiments

Hi, anantchowdhary,

anantchowdhary said:
So finally is it possible to create a black hole in an arbit situation with the use of just light?

Let me rephrase your question: electromagnetic radiation with random polarizations can be treated in gtr as a "null dust". So, is it possible to create a black hole using only the energy contained in a collapsing spherical shell of null dust?

The answer is "yes", as can be seen from the Vaidya null dust, an exact null dust solution which generalizes the Schwarzschild vacuum. In fact, it is well worth studying some scenarios in detail since you can learn much about black holes this way. In particular, we can clearly see the "teleological" nature of the event horizon. See Frolov & Novikov, Black Hole Physics, Kluwer.
 

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