Can Derivative Methods Determine the Correct Angle in Physics Problems?

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The discussion revolves around determining the correct angle in a physics problem involving forces and moments. The original poster presents a problem and seeks validation of their approach to finding the angle using derivative methods.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive a condition by setting a derivative equal to zero, questioning if this is a valid method for finding the angle. Other participants provide feedback on the clarity of units and suggest considering the point of action of the force.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's method, offering clarifications and suggestions. There is a mix of validation and further questioning regarding the correctness of the approach to find the angle, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a potential misunderstanding in terminology, as the original poster used "momentum" instead of "moment," which may affect clarity in the discussion. Additionally, the need for unit specification is highlighted, suggesting a focus on precision in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement
Determine the moment of the force with respect to point O as a function of θ . for what value of θ in the range between 0° and 180° is the moment at its maximum? what is the value of the moment in this case?
Relevant Equations
Mo= R x F
This is the image of the problem:
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I tried to solve it and I got the following is it correct?

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derive and equal to 0 because it is between an angle of 0 and 180° is this statement correct?
 
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Looks fine, though you should specify units everywhere, e.g. ##1500\sin(\theta)Nm##.

You can take the point of action of a force as anywhere along its line of action, so it is simpler to consider the force acting at the centre of the arc. The horizontal component then has no moment about O, and you can write the answer down immediately.

Btw, you put "momentum" in the title instead of "moment".
 
haruspex said:
Looks fine, though you should specify units everywhere, e.g. ##1500\sin(\theta)Nm##.

You can take the point of action of a force as anywhere along its line of action, so it is simpler to consider the force acting at the centre of the arc. The horizontal component then has no moment about O, and you can write the answer down immediately.

Btw, you put "momentum" in the title instead of "moment".
ok, but I still need to find the angle, is the statement I said correct to find it?
 
Tapias5000 said:
ok, but I still need to find the angle, is the statement I said correct to find it?
Yes.
 
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