Can dissolving minerals affect water temperature?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around whether dissolving minerals, specifically salts and other compounds, can affect the temperature of water. Participants explore various examples and the underlying thermodynamic principles, including heat of dissolution and hydration effects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that many substances, particularly salts, will cool water upon dissolution due to energy absorption during the breaking of bonds.
  • Others argue that certain salts can generate heat when dissolved, citing examples like Calcium Oxide, which reacts violently with water and produces significant heat.
  • It is noted that the heat of dissolution varies among salts; for instance, LiCl is exothermic, NaCl has a negligible effect on temperature, and KCl is endothermic, leading to cooling.
  • Participants discuss the importance of hydration and solvation in the dissolution process, with some emphasizing that the energy released from forming solvation shells can be substantial.
  • There is a mention of individual ion interactions, where ion-ion interactions are stronger than ion-dipole interactions, affecting the overall energy dynamics in solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effects of dissolving salts on water temperature, with no consensus reached on the general behavior of all salts. Some agree on specific examples while contesting the broader claims.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the dissolution process, including the roles of lattice energy and hydration, but do not resolve the varying effects across different substances.

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Are there any type of minerals/molecules/elements even solids that when dissolved, in say a glass of room temp water, can raise or lower the temperature? Examples...
 
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Nearly everything, and especially salts, many chemicals will cool the water while getting dissolved. Breaking up the bonds in whatever gets dissolved needs some energy, that energy is taken from heat.
 
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mfb said:
Nearly everything, and especially salts, will cool the water while getting dissolved.

Sorry but no. Many salts (and by many I mean something in a "half" ballpark) have quite a large, negative heat of dissolution. My bet is that you are missing the hydration (or more generally solvation) part - capturing of dipole water molecules by cations and anions. That produces quite a lot of heat, especially when dissolving anhydrous salts.
 
One well known reaction is Calcium Oxide with water . The uncontrolled reaction is quite violent and large amounts of heat are generated .

The reaction can be calmed down a bit if necessary by use of passive additives or by controlling the rate at which the Calcium oxide and water are brought into contact .

This is one of the heat generating reactions used in products like self heating soup .

Calcium Oxide is commonly called Quicklime .
 
The CaO reacts with water beyond simple dissolution. The classic heat of solution experiment is to dissolve the series LiCl, NaCl, KCl in water. LiCl dissolution is very exothermic (water gets very hot), NaCl basically leaves temperature unchanged, and KCl dissolution is quite endothermic (water gets very cold, enough to form frost on the reaction vessel even in small demonstrations). The reason, as @Borek mentioned, is the balance of the salt’s lattice energy with the energy gained by forming a solvation shell of water molecules around the ions.
 
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Borek said:
Sorry but no. Many salts (and by many I mean something in a "half" ballpark) have quite a large, negative heat of dissolution. My bet is that you are missing the hydration (or more generally solvation) part - capturing of dipole water molecules by cations and anions. That produces quite a lot of heat, especially when dissolving anhydrous salts.
Roughly half? Okay, then I misremembered it. I know about the hydration, but I expected it to be smaller for most salts.
 
mfb said:
Roughly half? Okay, then I misremembered it. I know about the hydration, but I expected it to be smaller for most salts.
Individual Ion-ion interactions are significantly stronger than the individual ion-dipole interactions in water solutions, but in solution, you have 4-8 waters tightly bound to each ion, and a few dozen more loosely bound to this inner hydration shell structure, so you can pick up energy pretty quickly in these situations.
 

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