Reduction in gas concentration of water with solutes

In summary, adding salt to water can make the water more polar and cause the oxygen to be "driven" from solution. This phenomenon, known as salting out, is still being studied and debated. Other solutes, such as phenol, may also cause this effect, but it is generally thought that larger solutes are less likely to contribute to it. This is because certain ionic solutes can cause an enhanced "structuring" of the water, reducing the effective volume in which hydrophobic solutes like oxygen can dissolve. Solvation and solvation shell are important concepts to understand in relation to this phenomenon.
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When salt (polar) is added to water (polar) it makes the water more polar and causes the oxygen (non-polar) to be "driven" from solution. So I'm assuming this is an electrostatic repulsion(?).

Aside from salt what other solutes would cause this to happen? Would a solute have to have very polar molecules? In particular would phenol, which can dissolve in water due to hydrogen bonding, but is mostly non-polar cause this 'degassing' effect?

Any feedback on the above would be very much appreciated.
 
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The origin of salting out phenomena is still a subject of active debate and study, so I don't think there is any definitive answer to your question, although theories, both serious and pop science, abound. The bottom line appears, so far, to be that certain ionic solutes cause an enhanced "structuring" of the water and the solubility of hydrophobic solutes (like O2) may be decreased for no more complicated reason than that the effective volume of water in which they can dissolve is reduced. What's important to your question, therefore, is whether phenol is a more "structure-making" solute than, say, NaCl. It probably isn't: generally larger solutes appear to be less likely to be "structure making."
 
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Christopher Grayce said:
The origin of salting out phenomena is still a subject of active debate and study, so I don't think there is any definitive answer to your question, although theories, both serious and pop science, abound. The bottom line appears, so far, to be that certain ionic solutes cause an enhanced "structuring" of the water and the solubility of hydrophobic solutes (like O2) may be decreased for no more complicated reason than that the effective volume of water in which they can dissolve is reduced. What's important to your question, therefore, is whether phenol is a more "structure-making" solute than, say, NaCl. It probably isn't: generally larger solutes appear to be less likely to be "structure making."

Many thanks for the reply that's extremely helpful. I'll see if I can find some papers on salting out, however the ones I've seen don't really talk about a reduction in gas concentration. Could you perhaps explain the "structuring" aspect a little more?
 
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rwooduk said:
Could you perhaps explain the "structuring" aspect a little more?

Google solvation, solvation shell - molecules involved in solvation are no longer part of the bulk solvent..
 
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Borek said:
Google solvation, solvation shell - molecules involved in solvation are no longer part of the bulk solvent..

Excellent, will do. Thanks again.
 

1. How does the presence of solutes affect the concentration of gas in water?

The presence of solutes in water can decrease the concentration of gas due to the phenomenon known as solubility. Solubility is the ability of a solute to dissolve in a solvent, and in this case, the solute (such as salt or sugar) takes up space that would otherwise be occupied by gas molecules, leading to a decrease in gas concentration.

2. What are some common solutes that can reduce the gas concentration in water?

Common solutes that can decrease the gas concentration in water include salts (such as sodium chloride), sugars (such as glucose), acids (such as citric acid), and gases themselves (such as carbon dioxide). Other substances, such as proteins and organic molecules, can also contribute to a decrease in gas concentration.

3. Is the reduction in gas concentration permanent or reversible?

The reduction in gas concentration due to the presence of solutes is typically reversible. When the solutes are removed from the water (through processes such as filtration or evaporation), the gas concentration will return to its original level. However, some solutes may form strong bonds with gas molecules, making it more difficult for the gas to be released back into the air.

4. Can the reduction in gas concentration affect the quality of water for living organisms?

Yes, a decrease in gas concentration can have a significant impact on the quality of water for living organisms. Many aquatic organisms rely on dissolved oxygen in water for respiration, and a decrease in gas concentration can lead to hypoxia (low oxygen levels) which can be harmful or even fatal for these organisms. Additionally, changes in gas concentration can also affect the pH and nutrient levels in water, which can have further impacts on aquatic life.

5. How can the reduction in gas concentration be measured or quantified?

The decrease in gas concentration can be measured using various methods, such as gas sensors, titration, or spectrophotometry. These techniques can provide quantitative data on the amount of gas present in water and can be used to track changes in gas concentration over time. Additionally, the physical properties of water, such as its color and odor, can also provide qualitative information about changes in gas concentration.

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