Can Gravity Affect the Laws of Physics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the question of whether gravity can affect the laws of physics, particularly in the context of quantum physics and black holes. Participants explore the implications of gravity on physical laws and the nature of these laws in extreme conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if gravity can affect the laws of physics, suggesting that if everything can be described numerically, gravity might influence these laws.
  • Another participant asserts that gravity does not affect the laws of physics but changes the context in which they operate, referencing Einstein's theory of general relativity and the concept of spacetime curvature.
  • A third participant expresses confusion about the original question, indicating that gravitational interactions are inherently part of physics.
  • The initial poster acknowledges the clarification that while gravity does not affect the laws themselves, it alters their applicability.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are competing views regarding the relationship between gravity and the laws of physics. Some argue that gravity merely changes the context, while others explore the implications of gravity on the understanding of these laws.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and familiarity with the concepts discussed, indicating that some ideas may be based on incomplete or evolving knowledge.

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Ok, try to simplify anything you say a bit, I am only fourteen and haven't had much time to be interested in physics, i love quantum physics though and I am trying to understand it as early as possible.
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My question is, can gravity affect the Laws of Physics? I understand it sounds odd, and hard to measure i suppose... as one (the laws) is something more real yet abstract, and the other is a property. But I have no clue where i heard this, probably Einstein, but i heard that everything could be turned into numbers, and 100% described that way, wouldn't that include the laws of physics? then gravity could be affect it. If you're wondering where I am getting this from, i was thinking about black holes, and how the laws of physics "crumble" when you attempt to understand them. Of course, all my knowledge comes from online articles and the Science channel, so it's most likely out-dated and only partially correct, i love hearing about science, so any helpful replies are welcome :) unhelpful too, ill make them helpful in my head somehow haha
 
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No, gravity does not affect the laws of physics. Fundamentally, gravity changes the "stage" upon which those laws are played out. This is because from Einstein we know that gravity is really just dynamic curvature of spacetime. The issue with the black hole is that general relativity predicts a singularity, i.e. a point where some physical quantity goes to infinity. All this really means is that general relativity doesn't work here, and isn't making sense. It's rather nice, because the theory tells us straight away where it isn't helpful and might need to be modified.
 
Gravitational interactions are part of physics like anything else is, I don't understand the question.
 
Ok, that makes sense :) thanks for the help
and to the second reply (sorry, forgot to check the name), i meant would gravity affect the laws of physics and as was explained it does not but it does change what the laws affect.
 

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