Can I become a Computer Engineer?

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The discussion centers around the potential for a high school student to pursue a career in computer engineering, considering their current academic standing and course selections. Participants explore the importance of foundational math and science courses, hands-on experience, and study habits in engineering education.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the student's lack of AP Calculus, questioning how this might impact their engineering aspirations.
  • Another participant emphasizes the necessity of hands-on experience in engineering, suggesting that the student engage with practical projects like building with Arduino or Raspberry Pi.
  • Several participants agree that while the student may feel behind, most colleges provide the opportunity to learn calculus and differential equations upon entry.
  • A participant shares their personal experience of struggling in college due to a lack of study habits, advising the student to develop these skills early.
  • Another participant suggests that taking precalculus online during the summer could help the student prepare for calculus in their senior year.
  • One participant highlights the importance of lab-based classes in engineering, noting that practical experience can be more challenging than theoretical coursework.
  • Another participant mentions that engaging in projects for competitions can lead to scholarships and recognition, reinforcing the value of practical experience.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that hands-on experience and good study habits are crucial for success in engineering. However, there is no consensus on the necessity of taking AP Calculus in high school, with some arguing it is important while others suggest it is not a strict requirement.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the student's current GPA and course load may affect their college admissions, but there is uncertainty about how much this will impact their engineering prospects. The discussion also reflects varying opinions on the importance of high school course selection versus college-level learning opportunities.

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Hello, and thank you for reading my post. I know there are probably millions of these posts everywhere, but I haven't seen one that rally answers my question. Things about me:
I'm currently a junior, I like math and science, but the highest level of math I'm taking is pre calculus next year (senior year) and honors physics. I've always pulled A's and B's in all my classes without studying, and I know I can pull straight A's when I study. I like math/science, and I feel I understand many of the concepts. I also have loved computers for a long time, and I would enjoy learning how to program. Next year (senior year) I'm taking AP java/computer science. Throughout my high school career, I've taken AP English language and composition and Psychology (both with an A) and next year, I'm taking AP English literature, AP government, AP economics, pre calc, physics, and AP java.
Anyway, so you think I can survive the brutal engineering program? I know I'm behind on my math/science classes, and that's why I'm not sure if I can keep up with the others who take AP calc AB/BC or Ap physics. I feel that I can learn at any pace and I have high work ethic. So what do you guys think? Should I continue with my plans for engineering? I can answer any questions if needed.
Sorry for the long post :p
 
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First, engineering is something you learn hands-on as well as in school. If you overlook the hands-on aspect, you will be doing yourself and your future employer/clients a disservice.

Second, all engineering curricula have some "wash-out" courses. They're difficult, but not impossible. Ask most electrical engineers what courses the sweated the most, and you'll likely get a response of Circuits and Signals was awful. Others might respond with "Fluid Dynamics was a killer." or "Semiconductor Physics was awful"... Every curriculum has such courses in it. One thing I will emphasize: You will not be able to skate through these courses without study. Nobody does.

With reasonable motivation and study, you'll get past these courses. You are not "behind" by much. Most colleges expect you to learn calculus and differential equations when you get there.

However, real engineers actually build things. If Software engineering is what you're after, then I suggest playing with the very PC you used to write this. Open Source Operating systems are available for the cost of a download and a flash drive.

If you're thinking more toward an embedded design of hardware and software, then I suggest purchasing an Arduino or a Raspberry Pi. Both are inexpensive and easy to work with. But above all, BUILD SOMETHING.
 
I'd wonder a little why you didn't take AP Calculus in high school, given that you want to be an engineer and claim you are generally doing well in your courses. But you could certainly become a computer engineer without taking calculus in high school. There is a reason that colleges offer these courses and don't just expect them as prerequisites!
 
Firebolt059 said:
Hello, and thank you for reading my post. I know there are probably millions of these posts everywhere, but I haven't seen one that rally answers my question. Things about me:
I'm currently a junior, I like math and science, but the highest level of math I'm taking is pre calculus next year (senior year) and honors physics. I've always pulled A's and B's in all my classes without studying, and I know I can pull straight A's when I study. I like math/science, and I feel I understand many of the concepts. I also have loved computers for a long time, and I would enjoy learning how to program. Next year (senior year) I'm taking AP java/computer science. Throughout my high school career, I've taken AP English language and composition and Psychology (both with an A) and next year, I'm taking AP English literature, AP government, AP economics, pre calc, physics, and AP java.
Anyway, so you think I can survive the brutal engineering program? I know I'm behind on my math/science classes, and that's why I'm not sure if I can keep up with the others who take AP calc AB/BC or Ap physics. I feel that I can learn at any pace and I have high work ethic. So what do you guys think? Should I continue with my plans for engineering? I can answer any questions if needed.
Sorry for the long post :p

It sounds like you should do fine. I would recommend that you develop good study habits now, though, so you are used to studying and carrying a fairly heavy academic load by the time you start college.

I graduated 2nd in my high school class basically without studying, and got my behind handed to me the first quarter at college because I didn't have good study habits. I turned that around and did great for the rest of college, but it was a real eye-opener when I first started college.

(BTW, I'd recommend breaking your posts up into good paragraph form, with blank lines between paragraphs. Makes it much easier for folks to read and reply to your posts. :smile: )
 
TMFKAN64 said:
I'd wonder a little why you didn't take AP Calculus in high school, given that you want to be an engineer and claim you are generally doing well in your courses.

To be honest, I was really lazy my freshman/sophomore years of high school. I just started trying/studying this year (junior year) and my GPA currently is 3.7 unweighted and 4.2 weighted. I know that I am capable of learning calculus now, but my school requires pre calc before calc.
 
Probably would have been a good idea to take calculus in high school-maybe take precalc online in the summer and do calc senior year? You shouldn't have too much of a problem getting into universities, as long as you keep your grades up, I guess.
 
JakeBrodskyPE said:
However, real engineers actually build things. If Software engineering is what you're after, then I suggest playing with the very PC you used to write this. Open Source Operating systems are available for the cost of a download and a flash drive.

If you're thinking more toward an embedded design of hardware and software, then I suggest purchasing an Arduino or a Raspberry Pi. Both are inexpensive and easy to work with. But above all, BUILD SOMETHING.

I highly recommend these suggestions too. I'm a junior in EE right now and the classes that suck up the most time are lab-based classes. Embedded systems, circuits labs, programming labs, etc. I've lost hours for not flipping a bit in a register to read/write mode because I didn't have the experience needed.

I have always struggled more in an EE class than a math or physics class. I came into college very prepared for the math and physics classes because I thought they were going to be the hardest and I was dead-wrong. I should have spent my time writing code, debugging circuits, and hacking an Arduino. Although, I would now recommend buying a Raspberry Pi because the ARM and Linux experience.
 
Drumming's right-especially in the case where building something, like for a science fair or robotics competition and such can win you prize money or scholarships, plus the college recognition for such efforts.
 

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