Can I buy pre-made balun transformers for a double balanced ring diode mixer?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of purchasing pre-made balun transformers for a double balanced ring diode mixer in RF mixer design. Participants explore options for sourcing these components and share insights on their performance compared to homemade versions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a preference for purchasing pre-made balun transformers due to the difficulty of winding them by hand.
  • Another participant notes that the availability of baluns depends on the operating frequency and suggests that commercially available options are likely to perform better than homemade versions.
  • A different contributor agrees, emphasizing that commercial baluns are compact and inexpensive, and suggests focusing efforts on other parts of the RF circuit instead of DIY baluns.
  • One participant shares links to specific balun options that fit the desired frequency range and indicates plans to order them.
  • A participant mentions personal experience with audio frequency baluns and mixers, adding a light-hearted comment referencing popular culture.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that pre-made balun transformers are preferable to homemade versions, particularly regarding performance and ease of use. However, there is no consensus on specific brands or models, as individual preferences and experiences vary.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention factors such as frequency range and cost, but do not delve into specific technical requirements or performance metrics for the baluns discussed.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in RF mixer design, particularly those considering the use of balun transformers in their projects, may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi all. I started a thread a while back about RF mixer design. I didn't know what to do or what design to choose. You guys laid some options for me and after some research and time I have finally decided that I will go for a double balanced, ring diode topology. Here is a schematic from google:
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So I think I get the general idea of the circuit and I am ready to simulate it and build it. I am wondering about one thing though, the two balun transformers... Is it possible to buy them already made? If so, how do I choose what I need? I would hate having to wind them myself as my hands do not allow me to undertake such delicate work.

Thank you PF.
 
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It depends on the frequency you are working at (for the cost) but I think they are available at all popular frequencies and would probably work better than a home made version (coil winding is pretty skilled and balance is important).
See these links
1, 2, and many others.
 
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I agree with sophiecentaur

These things are built in a tiny metal box 1" x .5" x .5" and cost peanuts. You would never be able to achieve anywhere near the performance that a commercial one would give you.
You would be better off putting your efforts to other parts of the RF circuits
The SBL- 1 ( and SBL-1X) is a wideband mixer I have used often over the years
Have also used a variety of others that cover other frequency ranges

cheers
Dave
 
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Thank you guys for your great replies. After looking at the links you have provided, I found some baluns that have the frequency range that I am looking for. I will be ordering a pair soon.

EDIT1: I think I will get this one: http://www.coilcraft-cps.com/pdf/ae458rfw.pdf OR http://www.bourns.com/pdfs/RF.pdf

EDIT2: Sorry for the multiple edits...
 
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I have played with audio frequency baluns and mixers. Good fun: Ex terrrrrminate! (Dr Who / Dalek, quote, for people not in the UK)
 
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