Can I construct |-x> from |+x> in order to find <S_x>?

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The discussion revolves around finding the expectation value of the spin operator for a quantum state expressed in terms of the |z> and |-z> basis. Participants explore the relationship between different spin states and their representations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of using the state |\psi> and consider different methods, including direct calculation and the use of raising and lowering operators. There is also a question about constructing the |-x> state from the |+x> state to ensure specific measurement probabilities.

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The discussion includes various approaches to the problem, with some participants suggesting methods for calculating and others questioning the construction of |-x> from |+x>. There is no explicit consensus, but multiple lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraints of quantum mechanics principles and the specific representations of spin states. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the probabilities of measuring spin states are correctly accounted for.

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Homework Statement


[itex]|\psi >=a|z>+b|-z>[/itex]
find [itex]<S_x >[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution




So I just need to find
[itex]<S_x>=({|<x|\psi >|}^2-{|<-x|\psi>|}^2)\frac{\hbar}{2}[/itex]
right
 
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cragar said:

Homework Statement


[itex]|\psi >=a|z>+b|-z>[/itex]
find [itex]<S_x >[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution




So I just need to find
[itex]<S_x>=({|<x|\psi >|}^2-{|<-x|\psi>|}^2)\frac{\hbar}{2}[/itex]
right

Yes, that will get you the answer. If you know the matrix representations of [itex]S_x[/itex], [itex]|z>[/itex], and [itex]|-z>[/itex], then you can also just calculate directly [itex]<S_x>=<\psi |S_x|\psi >[/itex].
 
An easy way to do this problem is to write Sx in terms of the raising and lowering operators. The expectation values of both the raising and lowering operators should be obvious.
 
ok thanks for the posts.
If I know what |+x> is. Can I construct |-x> by creating coefficients so that the probability of measuring spin up in the +x and -x equals 1.
 

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