Can I Learn Calculus in Time for My College Major?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of learning calculus in preparation for college majors in physics or engineering. Participants explore concerns about mathematical preparedness, the relationship between calculus and physics, and the necessary math courses for these fields.

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  • One participant expresses anxiety about their math skills and the feasibility of learning calculus before college, questioning their ability to succeed in a calculus-based physics course.
  • Another participant suggests that understanding physics can aid in grasping calculus concepts, emphasizing the importance of the right instructor.
  • It is noted that some individuals may only understand calculus after taking a calculus-based physics course, while others may need to learn calculus first to comprehend physics derivations.
  • A suggestion is made for those uncomfortable with calculus to consider taking pre-calculus or algebra courses in college to build a foundation.
  • A participant lists the math courses typically required for an engineering major, including Calculus 1, 2, 3, Differential Equations, Probability and Statistics, Linear Algebra, and Discrete Math.
  • A younger participant shares their plan to learn calculus online over the summer and provides a link to a resource with lessons and quizzes on calculus topics.

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Participants express a range of views on the relationship between calculus and physics, with no consensus on the best approach to learning calculus or the necessary preparatory courses. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best strategies for learning calculus in time for college.

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Participants mention various assumptions about prior knowledge and the effectiveness of different teaching methods, but these are not fully explored or agreed upon.

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I've been worrying about this for a long time. I like physics, a lot, but I've never been very good at math. Infact, I'm horrible at math. I've been debating whether I should choose physics or engineering as a major when I go to college this fall even though I know it's going to involve taking math courses and a calculus based physics. I don't even know what calculus is. Although I believe if you work hard enough at something you can accomplish your goals I don't think it's always possible to accomplish those goals in the time required. If I can't learn the course material before the test on it I'll fail. I just need some way of knowing I'd be able to learn math , specifically calculus, in time. Does anyone have good advice on how i could be able to test my ability to learn calculus in the nessecary amount of time? What other math would I end up needing to learn to major in physics or engineering? And how do you know when to use special mathmatical formulas for equations, like using the quadratic formula?
 
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if you understand physics well, then you must understand some of calculus as they are not very different. you just need to take the course from the right teacher.
 
It goes both directions - some people just don't get calculus until they take a calc-based physics course, then they get the physical interpretation of what the calculus means. On the other hand there are those who need to know the math and the theorems and so on in order to really understand the derivations in physics (especially E&M)
 
If you don't feel comfortable with calculus, then by all means take pre-calculus or even an algebra course when you get to college.

The mathematics courses that will be required from you if you study engineering are:

Calculus 1 (Differential)
Calculus 2 (Integral)
Calculus 3 (Multivariable)
Differential Equations
Probability and Statistics
Linear Algebra
Discrete Math (Only at some schools, mostly for Computer Engineers)

Those are the math classes that I have taken as an EE. Perhaps a physicist will be able to tell you what classes you will need to take as a physics major.

Good luck.
 
Hi even though I'm only 16 and new to this forum, I thought I could help you out with your calculus problem. You see I'm going to take pre-cal pre-ap my junior year after this summer and take calculus AP in my senior year. Well I thought why not get a head start and start learning calculus on the internet during the summer. Well I finally came across this site. It has lessons on almost all the subjects on calculus. It is Flash based. And each lesson teaches at the beginning and at the end has a Quiz or a test to see if you comprehend the lesson. There are 68 lessons. Here is the link.

http://www.waybuilder.net/free-ed/Math/Calculus/Calc02_NROC.asp

Hope this helps as much as it helps me. :)
 

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