Can Insecticide Remove Moth Cocoons from My Room?

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The discussion revolves around the identification of moth cocoons found in a room and the effectiveness of insecticides in removing them. Participants explore the nature of moths, the mechanisms of insecticides, and alternative methods for pest control.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the presence of moth cocoons and questions how insecticides work, specifically whether they affect the insect's lungs or bloodstream.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the existence of chemicals that can kill insects without harming humans, mentioning mothballs and their toxicity.
  • A participant clarifies that insects do not have lungs and explains that insecticides can interfere with molting hormones, which may affect moths during their life cycle.
  • There is a suggestion to consult with a pest control professional who uses non-toxic methods, based on a personal experience with insect control in sensitive environments.
  • Several participants discuss the appearance of the cocoons, with one suggesting it might be an empty shell and another confirming its characteristics.
  • A participant shares an attempt to use a taser on the cocoons, questioning its effectiveness and the potential insulating properties of the cocoon covering.
  • Another participant mentions a specific moth species, Phereoeca uterella, in relation to the cocoons.
  • One participant suggests using a vacuum cleaner as a method for removal.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness and safety of insecticides, as well as uncertainty regarding the identification of the cocoons. No consensus is reached on the best approach to dealing with the cocoons or the efficacy of the proposed methods.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of insecticides and their effects on both insects and humans, as well as the identification of the cocoons, which remains uncertain.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals dealing with pest control in residential settings, those interested in entomology, and anyone seeking non-toxic pest management solutions may find this discussion relevant.

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I have dozens of this in my room.

It's about 0.4" (10mm) long. I guess these are moth cocoons. The insect left them behind and looked like flying moths.

How many kind of moths are there, and how does insecticide exactly get rid of them? Does it work on their lungs or the blood stream? Just want to make sure it won't affect humans when I use it.

Thanks.
 
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Insects are tough. I don't think we know of any chemicals that will kill them and at the same time are harmless to humans. Mothballs are made of paradichlorobenzene. I think it kills them by being absorbed into their bloodstream. It is considered toxic to humans and is listed as a possible carcinogen. Usually what you do is fumigate the room when you aren't present, then air it out before you return.
 
Insects don't have lungs.
They use other structures for gas exchange, usually trachea.
Some aquatic insects have gill like things.

There are insecticides that work by interfering with molting hormones (such as juvenile hormone or ecdysone).
An emergence from a pupa is a modified molting event, so that to be effected by those kinds of drugs.

You might consider talking with an insect control person.
In town here (Eugene, Oregon), we have a guy who uses largely non-toxic means to got rid of insects. We used him to deal with roaches in fish labs (in a biology building), where you don't want to be throwing around insecticides that might mess with study subjects (animals of various kinds).
 
seazal said:
I have dozens of this in my room.

It's about 0.4" (10mm) long. I guess these are moth cocoons. The insect left them behind and looked like flying moths.

How many kind of moths are there, and how does insecticide exactly get rid of them? Does it work on their lungs or the blood stream? Just want to make sure it won't affect humans when I use it.

Thanks.

Forgot to post the photo I took. Is this a moth cocoon?

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Looks like a cocoon, but not easy to tell for sure.
Is it an empty shell with a hole at one end?
Alternatively, it might be a cocoon for a non-moth insect.
 
BillTre said:
Looks like a cocoon, but not easy to tell for sure.
Is it an empty shell with a hole at one end?
Alternatively, it might be a cocoon for a non-moth insect.

Yes. An empty shell with a hole at one end. It's left there for weeks after the moth escapes (or born? reborn?)

I tried to zap the cocoons with a taser (see below) but the moth inside couldn't seem to be affected. The cocoon can shield the moth from the zapper spark?

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1...-img...35i39.vtV4k227xjM#imgrc=_j58C7_M60vXsM:
 
seazal said:
escapes (or born? reborn?)
Emerged is usually used.

seazal said:
I tried to zap the cocoons with a taser (see below) but the moth inside couldn't seem to be affected. The cocoon can shield the moth from the zapper spark?
The cocoon covering may insulate, but the inside would be highly conductive.
If the taser is only affecting nerve and muscle function, it may not affect some stages of the cocoon since the muscles and many nerves are being broken down and rebuilt.
This is assuming the taser is not going to just fry the pupa's tissues.
 
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