Can International Students with a GED Secure Scholarships at Top U.S. Colleges?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by international students with a GED seeking to apply to top U.S. colleges, particularly regarding admission tests, recommendation letters, and scholarship opportunities. The scope includes application processes, financial aid, and the feasibility of attending community colleges as a pathway to four-year institutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Mark expresses uncertainty about the necessary tests for college applications, mentioning TOEFL, SAT Math2, and SAT Physics, but seeks clarification on whether these are universally required.
  • Some participants suggest that applying to a community college may be a viable option, noting that many accept international students and offer financial aid.
  • There is a discussion about the variability of requirements among colleges, with some participants indicating that not all schools require SAT subject tests unless aiming for elite institutions.
  • Mark raises concerns about obtaining recommendation letters, questioning whether tutors can provide these in the absence of community college evaluations.
  • Mark expresses a desire to attend prestigious colleges like Caltech or MIT and inquires about scholarship availability, noting his financial constraints.
  • Participants acknowledge the importance of scholarships and suggest that some top colleges may offer substantial financial aid, although specifics are not confirmed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that community colleges may be a good starting point for international students, but there is no consensus on the specific requirements for tests or recommendations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to securing recommendations and scholarships.

Contextual Notes

Mark's situation is complicated by the lack of community colleges in his country, which affects his ability to obtain traditional recommendation letters. The discussion reflects various assumptions about the admissions process and financial aid availability, which may vary significantly by institution.

Who May Find This Useful

International students considering applying to U.S. colleges, particularly those with non-traditional educational backgrounds, and individuals interested in scholarship opportunities and community college pathways.

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Hi, I'm Mark. Currently I self-study Physics and Mathematics. I have secondary school and GED degree, and I'm not a native English speaker. I'm wondering if I want to apply to college for 2017, what I have to do?

What test do I need. Who am I suppose to get a recommendation letters from, can I get them from my tutor (then I have to get a tutor first). Are there any colleges that offer 80%+ scholarships for international students?(my finance is utterly bad)

From what I've known, I need TOEFL, Sat Math2 and Sat Physics(Science) will be required. But is there anything else? Recommendation letter part really concern me. I left school for 3 years (due to financial problem) and now they say I have to get evaluations from my secondary school, and teacher from non-degree course. I do not understand what is non-degree course, does it mean I could get my evaluations from tutor or does it mean only courses via community college? And scholarships part is extremely in my concern, I have very small fund, some of my family members do not support me for this, but some does. I would work 12 hrs a day as a janitor to study in college, so I do not need full scholarships, but I imagine if there are none, my payment as "janitor" would not be enough.

I do really appreciate if you would recommend any solution for "Test", "Recommendation letters" and "Colleges".
Love to see any feedback. :-)
 
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I can't answer all your questions, but there is little doubt in my mind that you should apply to a 2 year Community College. Many accept international students. Financial Aid is available. Tuition is a fraction of the cost of a private university. With part time work, you should be fine. After 2 years, you can then transfer to a public or private university as a Junior. Many community colleges have partnerships with the 4 year universities that makes the transfer a lot easier. Many accept the GED readily. Search around and good luck.
 
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MarkCJ said:
From what I've known, I need TOEFL, Sat Math2 and Sat Physics(Science)

Assuming you're applying to colleges and universities in the US, it's up to the individual school what they require. You have to look at their individual web sites. It's not very common for schools to require SAT subject tests (e.g. Math 2 and Physics), unless you're focusing on elite schools. See for example http://rowlandheights.eliteprep.com/college-admissions-resources/colleges-that-require-sat-subject-tests.
 
PhanthomJay said:
I can't answer all your questions, but there is little doubt in my mind that you should apply to a 2 year Community College. Many accept international students. Financial Aid is available. Tuition is a fraction of the cost of a private university.
Thank you very much for your answer, but from my information there are no community college in my country. So in this case that you've suggested, I will apply for US community college.
jtbell said:
It's not very common for schools to require SAT subject tests (e.g. Math 2 and Physics), unless you're focusing on elite schools.
Yes, I do aim for the best college I could get in. eg. Caltech, MIT, etc. Thanks for suggestion I'll look for any college that offer any scholarships.

Both of you really do give me a relief, thank you again for these suggestions. I might have to take a look for any scholarships, from what I've known both Caltech and MIT do give somewhat full scholarships as well. But from the lack of my knowledge on 'college names' it will take a while to search for them, but that's going to be a very small concern for me, thanks to you guys.
(forgot to mention, I'd love to major in Physics or Mathematics)

The big concern is my recommendations, as I inform, my country does not provide any community college, so it will be impossible to get any recommendations from that, however there're tutors and private classes, will it be possible for me to get my recommendations from them?

Again, thanks in advance for any suggestions. :-)
 

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