Can Lasers Used for Building Molecules Initiate Nuclear Fusion?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential for using lasers, which have been successfully employed to build molecules, to initiate nuclear fusion, specifically focusing on deuterium-deuterium fusion. Participants explore the differences between molecular bonding and nuclear fusion processes, examining whether the techniques used in molecular construction could be adapted for fusion applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the coherent control used in lasers for building molecules could also be applied to achieve fusion, particularly with deuterium.
  • Others argue that inertial confinement fusion, which is laser-driven, requires a vastly different approach involving significant energy input over a very short time, contrasting it with molecular bonding.
  • One participant highlights the challenge of achieving a sufficient number of fusions, noting that while fusing a few molecules might be feasible, scaling up to useful power levels presents significant difficulties.
  • Another participant clarifies that while diatomic deuterium molecules can be created, this does not equate to achieving fusion, which requires overcoming Coulomb repulsion between nuclei.
  • It is noted that the energy scales involved in fusion (MeV) are much higher than those for chemical bonding (eV), indicating a fundamental difference in the processes.
  • One participant emphasizes that the energy required to overcome nuclear forces is significantly greater than that needed for molecular interactions, further complicating the idea of using lasers for fusion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of using lasers for nuclear fusion, with some supporting the idea and others firmly opposing it based on the fundamental differences between molecular and nuclear processes. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the energy scales required for fusion versus molecular bonding, as well as the challenges associated with scaling fusion processes to practical levels.

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http://www.iflscience.com/space/molecules-have-been-built-using-laser-beam-first-time

Is there a way that fusion could be achieved with coherent control like this? If it can build molecules couldn't deuterium-deuterium be achieved?
 
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I don't see how. Inertial confinement fusion (which is laser-driven) involves pouring huge amounts of energy into a small fuel pellet in a tiny fraction of a second. It is wildly different than using a laser to bond atoms and molecules together.
 
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If the lasers can build molecules why can they bond deuterium together?
 
The problem is one of numbers.
Getting a few molecules to fuse is not that much of a problem, but the difficulty escalates as the numbers increase, sort of a 'herding cats' phenomenon.
To get useful amounts of power, we need lots of molecules fusing, not just a few million.
 
SupaVillain said:
If the lasers can build molecules why can they bond deuterium together?
Certainly one can create diatomic molecules of deuterium. That does not grant fusion.

In fusion, the nuclei must fuse by overcoming the Coulomb repulsion until the nuclear force takes over. The idea of heating a plasma is to allow the nuclei to approach each other that the nuclei can fuse, reform and release energy (transform binding energy into kinetic energy).
 
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SupaVillain said:
If the lasers can build molecules why can they bond deuterium together?

I'm not sure you understand how fusion works. These lasers are building chemical bonds between atoms - which have eV energy scales. Fusion involves two atomic nuclei coming together to produce a new nucleus. It is a nuclear process, and you need nuclear energy scales - MeV.
 
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SupaVillain said:
If the lasers can build molecules why can they bond deuterium together?
Because the energy required to overcome nuclear coulomb forces is on the order of a million times greater than that required to overcome molecular forces.
 

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