Can LED bulbs be safely used in motorcycles without additional modifications?

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The discussion revolves around the safety and feasibility of using LED bulbs in motorcycles that originally use incandescent bulbs. Participants explore the implications of powering LEDs with AC from a magneto generator and the potential need for additional modifications or components.

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  • One participant notes the use of AC power from the magneto generator and questions whether LEDs can be used without modifications, suggesting the addition of diodes.
  • Another participant emphasizes the variety of LEDs available for different power types and voltage levels, indicating the need to select appropriate components.
  • A third participant proposes using a current limiting resistor for indicator lights and mentions the potential need for a flyback diode if the electrical line is noisy.
  • Another participant suggests that if the LED units are rated for 6 VDC, they may function correctly but expresses confusion about the proposed modifications in the initial post.
  • A later reply raises concerns about the safety of modifications, suggesting that the original poster may lack the necessary background to make such changes and highlighting the importance of adhering to manufacturer specifications.

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Participants express differing views on the safety and appropriateness of using LEDs in this context, with some suggesting modifications while others caution against them. No consensus is reached regarding the best approach or the safety implications of such modifications.

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Participants mention various components and configurations (e.g., diodes, resistors, capacitors) without fully resolving the implications of each option. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the specific electrical characteristics of the motorcycle's wiring and the suitability of the proposed modifications.

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I have a small motorcycle and have changed the incandescent bulbs to LED. It seems the bulbs were powered by AC off the magneto generator and AC thru the rectifier powered the 6 volt battery.
Is it ok to run LED this way or should I add diodes like in option a or b of diagram?
 

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LEDs and their supporting circuitry, come in many forms. You can buy LEDs for AC or DC and for many voltage levels. You need to find one that fits the way you want to power it.
 
Option C.

Put a current limiting resistor in series with the LED. At least if this is an indicator light.

If it's a brighter light (headlamp, tail light, etc.) you might want to consider more energy efficient options.

You might also need a flyback diode (option A) if the line is noisy from the spark plug.
 
Option 0.

If your LED units are rated at 6 vdc, you are set. They'll just blink imperceptibly fast.

Your options A & B in your first image make little sense to me. Option A looks like a short circuit.

Is the second image a diagram of your motorcycle's wiring?
 
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On second thought, I have to agree with OmCheeto here. :blushing: You do not have the required background to be making this modification. The parts need to be selected with the right values. Additional parts may be needed (such as a blocking capacitor for the flyback if a flyback is needed). And then there's the safety issue of modifying something away from the manufacturer's specifications.

We really can't reverse engineer equipment we can't see when people may be harmed by our decisions.
 

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