Can Logarithms Be Used to Solve a Tricky Exponential Problem?

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The discussion revolves around using logarithms to solve an exponential equation involving variables a, b, and c. Participants share their attempts to manipulate the equation and express it in logarithmic form, ultimately leading to the conclusion that the equality can be established through the relationship of logarithms. A key point is the transformation of the equation into a logarithmic format, where the sum of the logarithmic expressions equals one. The final proof demonstrates that the left-hand side equals the right-hand side by establishing a connection between the logarithmic identities. The conversation highlights the complexity of the problem and the effectiveness of logarithmic approaches in solving it.
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See my attempt;
$$a^x=bc$$
$$(a^x)^{yz} = (bc)^{yz}$$
$$a^{xyz} = (b^y)^z (c^z)^y $$
$$a^{xyz} = (ac)^z (ab)^y $$
$$a^{xyz} = a^z c^z a^y b^y$$
$$a^{xyz} = a^z(ab)a^y(ac)$$
$$a^{xyz} = a^2(bc) a^{y+z}$$
$$a^{xyz} = a^{y+z+2} (bc)$$
$$a^{xyz} = a^{y+z+2} a^x$$
$$a^{xyz} = a^{x+y+z+2} $$ bingo!

I would be interested in the proof by use of logarithms...i tried this and i was going round in circles...but i should be able to do it! I guess the hint here would be to express all the logs to base ##a##...I will check this out later. Meanwhile, any other approach is welcome:cool:...time now for a deserved cake and coffee...
 
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If ## x = \log_{a}{bc} ##

Then ## x+1 = \log_{a}{bc} + \log_{a}{a} = \log_{a}{abc} ##

We can equate all the arguments in this way namely abc and then turn it into base by taking reverses.

So,

##\frac{1}{x+1}+\frac{1}{y+1}+\frac{1}{z+1} = 1## and this gives the desired equality.
 
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Sunay_ said:
If ## x = \log_{a}{bc} ##

Then ## x+1 = \log_{a}{bc} + \log_{a}{a} = \log_{a}{abc} ##

We can equate all the arguments in this way namely abc and then turn it into base by taking reverses.

So,

##\frac{1}{x+1}+\frac{1}{y+1}+\frac{1}{z+1} = 1## and this gives the desired equality.
Looks interesting...I'll look at this later...thanks.
 
This part;
## x+1 = \log_{a}{bc} + \log_{a}{a} = \log_{a}{abc} ## is clear. Am trying to understand the next part of your working...i do not seem to get it...
 
Ok, since they want us to prove( to show that lhs = rhs of equation) that,

$$x+y+z=xyz-2$$
$$⇒x+y+z+2=xyz$$...i will now try to prove that the lhs= rhs.
$$\log_a(bc)+\log_b(ac)+\log_c(ab)+2= (\log_a(bc))(\log_b(ac))(\log_c(ab))$$
Consider the lhs of the equation, it follows that;
$$\log_ab+\log_ac+\log_ba+\log_bc+\log_ca+log_cb$$
$$⇒(m+\frac {1}{d}+\frac {1}{m}+q+d+\frac {1}{q})+2$$
$$=m+q+d+\frac {1}{m}+\frac {1}{q}+\frac {1}{d}+2$$

Now, consider the rhs of the equation,
$$(\log_a(bc))(\log_b(ac))(\log_c(ab))= (m+\frac {1}{d})(q+\frac {1}{m})(d+\frac {1}{q})$$
$$=mqd+m+d+\frac {1}{q}+q+ \frac {1}{d}+ \frac {1}{m}+ \frac {1}{qmd}$$
$$=m+q+d+\frac {1}{m}+\frac {1}{q}+\frac {1}{d}+mqd+ \frac {1}{qmd}$$

Now to deal with,
$$mqd+ \frac {1}{qmd}$$, note that,
$$mqd=(\log_ab)(\log_bc)(log_ca)=\log_ab \frac {\log_ac}{\log_ab}\frac {\log_aa}{\log_ac}=1$$
therefore,
$$mqd+ \frac {1}{qmd}=1+\frac{1}{1}=2$$
thus proved. Cheers guys:cool::cool:
 
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chwala said:
This part;
## x+1 = \log_{a}{bc} + \log_{a}{a} = \log_{a}{abc} ## is clear. Am trying to understand the next part of your working...i do not seem to get it...

I tried to imply that if ## x+1 = \log_{a}{abc} ## then ## \frac{1}{x+1} = \log_{abc}{a} ##

The same is true for ##\log_{abc}{b}## and ##\log_{abc}{c}##

So, because ## \log_{abc}{a}+\log_{abc}{b}+\log_{abc}{c}=\log_{abc}{abc}=1 ## is true,

The solution can be found using this:
Sunay_ said:
##\frac{1}{x+1}+\frac{1}{y+1}+\frac{1}{z+1} = 1## and this gives the desired equality.

I hope I could be of help.
 

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