Can Multiple Springs Amplify Launch Power Like Magnets with Ball Bearings?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of using multiple springs to amplify launch power, drawing a comparison to a mechanism involving magnets and ball bearings. Participants explore the feasibility of this idea through experimental setups and theoretical reasoning, focusing on the mechanics of spring compression and force transmission.

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Main Points Raised

  • PSpec proposes an experiment using multiple springs to launch an object, questioning whether this setup could amplify launch power similarly to magnets with ball bearings.
  • Drakkith argues that springs may absorb too much force compared to ball bearings, which transmit force more effectively due to their rigidity.
  • PSpec clarifies that their setup involves separate springs arranged vertically, suggesting that each spring could exponentially affect the next when released, potentially increasing the launch speed.
  • A later reply suggests that there is no significant difference between using multiple springs and a single larger spring, as both would compress similarly under the same conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of using multiple springs versus a single spring, with no consensus reached on whether the proposed method would work as intended.

Contextual Notes

Assumptions about the behavior of springs and the mechanics of force transmission are not fully explored, and the discussion does not resolve the mathematical or physical principles involved in the proposed setup.

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Individuals interested in experimental physics, mechanics, and the behavior of spring systems may find this discussion relevant.

positspectrum
Hello, this is my first post! I came here with a question- and I bet I will continue to have more. I hope this is a good place to seek answers. I am not a physics major / actually we didn't even have physics classes.

But... I did an experiment the other day after watching a video about magnets and ball bearings () - well I thought what if the ball bearings where replaced by "multiple springs". Would this still work? I got a dowel rod and placed it vertically - then I put 4 springs together with a nut on each end and I recorded one long string vs several strings together...

So here is my question : can placing multiple springs together be used to launch things in an exponential way? Has this been done before?

That is my first question here- is this a good place to ask such questions? Thanks for reading!

Kindly,
PSpec
 
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I think springs would absorb too much of the force. Ball bearings are very rigid and quickly transmit the force of the impact without losing much of it. Also, are you planning on using a magnet with these springs? That's why the trick in the video works. The ball bearing rolls down, is pulled towards the magnet at very high speed, and the force of the impact is transmitted to the last ball bearing with launches it outwards.
 
Thanks for the reply Drakkith,

I wasn't really planning on using magnets-
I was planning on having a tall vertical rod with 4 (separate) springs at the bottom lined up one after the other vertically - with a bolt resting on the top of the 4 springs. (instead of having one long spring the same length as the 4). I will pull down the bolt towards the bottom, and release--- each spring will exponentially affect the next and push the bolt up a lot faster than one spring since they are separate --- wouldn't it? Would this work or do I need a physics lesson? :)
 
Well, I decided to draw it, hope this works! I guess I am looking for the answer to this? Is it worth seeking?
 

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Well, I decided to draw it, hope this works! I guess I am looking for the answer to this? Is it worth seeking?

There is no real difference between the two. Each single spring added together functions as one larger one. If you pull the block halfway down, the springs will be 50% compressed, just like the 1 large spring will be 50% compressed also.
 

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