Can photon couple to scalar field?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the coupling of photons to scalar fields, particularly in the context of string theory and quantum field theory (QFT). Participants explore the conditions under which photons might couple to scalar fields, including real and complex scalar fields, and the implications of such couplings in various theoretical frameworks.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that photons can couple to scalar fields, although none exist in the Standard Model in a spontaneously broken state.
  • One participant mentions that the photon may couple to Selectrons in supersymmetry (SUSY), suggesting that exotic physics might allow for such couplings.
  • Another participant clarifies that scalar fields can carry charge if they are complex, but raises confusion regarding the coupling of real scalar fields.
  • A participant suggests that any scalar object with internal charges can couple to a photon through trilinear coupling involving another vector particle, mentioning neutral scalar mesons coupling to two photons.
  • It is noted that photons can couple to electrically neutral fields through higher-dimension operators, although the physical effects are typically small.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the interactions in QFT, questioning whether photons feel any force when passing between charges.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying viewpoints on the coupling of photons to scalar fields, with no consensus reached on the specifics of these interactions or the implications of different types of scalar fields.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the definitions of scalar fields discussed, particularly the distinction between real and complex scalar fields, and the implications of higher-dimension operators on photon interactions.

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I have seen in one paper that photon is coupled to dilaton field which is scalar and motivated by string theory. I do not understand this. Photon is carrier of electromagnetic field and so I thought it can only couple to electrically charged fields. Can anyone explain?
 
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Photons can couple to scalar fields. There just happens to be none in the Standard Model (in the spontaneously broken state). Don't want to search for my Rosiek paper now but I am pretty sure the photon couples to the Selectrons of SUSY, for example. In standard particle physics photons only couple to charged fields but in exotic physics they might couple to gravity which the dilaton (according to the WP article; I never encountered those guys myself) seems to be related to.
 
Scalar fields carry charge as long as they are complex.
 
Yes that is true but the one I talked about was real scalar field. That is the source of confusion. This I did not write explicitly in my question.
 
arroy_0205 said:
I have seen in one paper that photon is coupled to dilaton field which is scalar and motivated by string theory. I do not understand this. Photon is carrier of electromagnetic field and so I thought it can only couple to electrically charged fields. Can anyone explain?

Well, I am not up-to-snuff on string theory per se, but I would say that any scalar object with internal charges, whether they cancel or not, will couple to a photon through a trilinear coupling involving another appropriate vector particle. For neutral scalar mesons, for example, the coupling to two photons is an available channel...
 
photons can couple to fields that are electrically neutral through higher-dimension operators (and therefore are suppressed). All you need to do is maintain gauge and Lorentz invariance, so for example (with a real scalar field \phi):

\phi F_{\mu\nu}F^{\mu\nu}

is allowed. However, it's physical effects are typically quite small. But this is how you can describe photons scattering off (neutral) atoms in the atmosphere, for example.
 
Thanks everybody for your responses. These were really helpful for me.
 
Hi:

In QFT, photons are the carriers of the electromagnetic force, right?, Does that mean that if photons pass between charges , they don't feel any force at all?

I am a little bit confused about how the interactions occur in QFT, I'd be glad if you could please explain me

Thanks
 

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