Can Rain Drops Power Our Homes? A Theoretical Calculation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the theoretical calculation of energy generated by falling rain drops and the feasibility of using this energy to power homes. Participants explore the physics behind rain energy, potential applications, and alternative energy harvesting methods related to rain and storms.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the energy produced by a single rain drop using its mass and terminal velocity, concluding that the energy generated is insufficient to power a home.
  • Another participant comments on the calculation, noting the poor use of significant digits and relating the findings to the scale of water needed for hydroelectric dams to be economical.
  • A suggestion is made about using piezoelectric plates to harness energy from the deformation caused by rain drops, though concerns about energy yield are expressed.
  • Another participant supports the idea of developing a prototype for energy harvesting, particularly for campers who could benefit from small energy sources during storms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the feasibility of harnessing energy from rain. While some see potential in alternative methods like piezoelectric plates, others question the practicality of the initial calculations and the overall energy yield.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the calculations, including assumptions about efficiency and the scale of energy production relative to household needs. There is also mention of the challenges in intentionally attracting lightning for energy capture.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring renewable energy sources, particularly in the context of rain and storm-related energy harvesting, as well as individuals interested in theoretical physics applications.

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I was bored, my internet was out (from the rain), and so was TV. So all I could was sit there and think...

So I started asking myself, how much energy does a single rain drop have and how much electricity could THEORETICALLY (100% efficiency) be produced from falling rain? So when my internet came back up, I thought I would try and calculate it.

From searching the internet this is the variables I was able to come up with

Typical Rain drop is 2mm in diameter, has a terminal velocity of 6.25856m/2, and has a mass of 4mg.

Using the kinetic energy formula then I get (0.5) * (4x10-6kg) * (6.25856)^2 = 7.833914655x10-5 joules of energy per rain drop.

Looking up historical weather data for my city, I find that rain fall average is about 4.25 inches per month or 10.79500cm

Density of water is 1g/cm^3. So 1000mg / 4mg is 250 rain drops per cubic cm.

250 * 10.79500 is = 2698.75 rain drops per cm of area

2698.75 * 7.833914655x10-5 = .2114177718 joules per cm per month, multiply by 12 and we get 2.537013261 joules per cm per year.

1 joule = 1 watt second

From a quick google search I came up with the average household power usage being 8900 kilowatt-hours or 32040000000 watt seconds. So to power a house for a year of rain you would need a energy converter that covered as area 1.262902346x1010cm^2 or 78473.11366 square miles.

So if my math was correct, powering our homes from rain probably isn't the best of ideas. If anyone sees any errors in my math/calculations (and there most likely is, been a couple years since I've taken any physics classes) please let me know.
 
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I like this! (except for your poor use of significant digits <grin>) It also shows how much water is involved for hydroelectric dams to be economical.
 
Andy Resnick said:
I like this! (except for your poor use of significant digits <grin>) It also shows how much water is involved for hydroelectric dams to be economical.

hehe sorry about the significant digits. You should see how mad my math teachers get any time I have to use pi :)
 
you know what would be REALLY interesting... if you had a piezoelectric plate which deformed due to rain drops. minimal deflection (depending on thickness) .. but neat concept.
 
Nick Bruno said:
you know what would be REALLY interesting... if you had a piezoelectric plate which deformed due to rain drops. minimal deflection (depending on thickness) .. but neat concept.

That's what I was thinking, but after calculating how much energy would be produced. I didn't really think it was worth building a prototype or anything. My other idea was capturing electricity from lighting during the storm :), but from google I've found that it's very difficult to intentially attract lightning.
 
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I think this idea is still worth developing a prototype. Think of all the campers who get stormed out. It would be a great way for them to harvest energy for small LED lights or something around their campsite for some night lights. I know in some areas, especially where people camp, it can rain like crazy.
 

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