Can self-studying be fulfilling and effective?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the challenges and strategies of self-studying physics, particularly in the context of transitioning from community college to university. Participants explore the effectiveness of self-study without formal guidance or peer support, and the emotional and motivational aspects of learning independently.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about lacking initiative for self-study without a professor or peers, questioning their ability to engage deeply with the material.
  • Another participant challenges the notion of needing external motivation, suggesting that a serious student should be driven by curiosity and self-motivation.
  • Some participants propose the idea of using online courses as a supplementary resource, although one participant expresses a personal dislike for online learning.
  • A later reply emphasizes the availability of community support within the forum for discussing Griffith's Electrodynamics, suggesting that interaction with others can still occur in an online context.
  • One participant shares a link to a self-study resource that includes various insights and tips, indicating that there are multiple approaches to self-learning.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the necessity of external motivation for self-study. While some believe that curiosity should drive learning, others express concern about the challenges of studying alone. The discussion remains unresolved on the best strategies for effective self-study.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the absence of consensus on the effectiveness of self-study without peer interaction, and varying opinions on the role of online courses in supplementing traditional learning methods.

Who May Find This Useful

Students transitioning to university-level physics, individuals interested in self-study techniques, and those exploring the dynamics of independent learning in STEM fields.

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I'm about to transfer from a community college over to a university this semester for physics. I've completed all lower division physics and math courses and of course, I missed the deadline to apply for vast majority of physics related internships I could get. Add to that the fact that there aren't upper division physics courses offered over the summer at the university I'm transferring to, and you see how I'm a little bit dreading the next few months. I've decided to order Giffith's Electrodynamics textbook (what I'll be using in my next E&M class) and try to "self study".

The thing is, I'm wildly interested in physics, but without a professor to consult or fellow students, I fear I'll lack the initiative for serious self-study of the subject. Perhaps I am too immature; I know from experience I will be able to purvey the subject a little bit, but won't dive in deep enough that I'm doing actual problems in the textbook, feeling dejected and overwhelmed at not having any way to communicate with another the person about the subject.

How can I successfully learn the material, arming myself with just a textbook and no formal class structure to guide me?
 
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T dawg said:
not having any way to communicate with another the person about the subject.
Hey, what are we, chopped liver? :rolleyes: :biggrin:
 
What?
 
T dawg said:
I'm about to transfer from a community college over to a university this semester for physics. I've completed all lower division physics and math courses and of course, I missed the deadline to apply for vast majority of physics related internships I could get. Add to that the fact that there aren't upper division physics courses offered over the summer at the university I'm transferring to, and you see how I'm a little bit dreading the next few months. I've decided to order Giffith's Electrodynamics textbook (what I'll be using in my next E&M class) and try to "self study".

The thing is, I'm wildly interested in physics, but without a professor to consult or fellow students, I fear I'll lack the initiative for serious self-study of the subject. Perhaps I am too immature; I know from experience I will be able to purvey the subject a little bit, but won't dive in deep enough that I'm doing actual problems in the textbook, feeling dejected and overwhelmed at not having any way to communicate with another the person about the subject.

How can I successfully learn the material, arming myself with just a textbook and no formal class structure to guide me?

I will say this as nicely as I can. Please do not take offense to my following post.

Since you are transferring from a community college, you have had at least two years of college experience. I am assuming within these two years you have had time to study. By now, a serious student, should be motivated enough to learn and want to learn more topics of their interested field of study. If you lack the "initiative", then I question whether you are truly suited to study physics. What are you going to do, when you need to consult a separate textbook? How about the scenario were the professor does not "teach." What will you tell you're future employer when he demands you preform a specific task without a canned solution? Are you going to sit at your desk and not try to figure out a solution? What will you tell your significant other, when said employer fires you?

As a physics student, a majority of the learning is done outside of a school setting. A good physics student is driven by curiosity... curiosity is fed by preforming experiments and studying topics...
 
maybe a course on coursera or something similar. I do not really like online courses, so I cannot recommend something.
 
MidgetDwarf, I'm not looking for a career in physics. I'm just interested in the subject. I think you did get a little too personal with your response.
 
jtbell said:
Hey, what are we, chopped liver? :rolleyes: :biggrin:
T dawg said:
What?
Sorry... I was flashing back to the (often Jewish) standup comedians that I used to see on TV when I was a kid a long time ago. See

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chopped_liver

specifically the paragraph "Chopped liver as an expression". :smile:

Anyway, my point was, if you don't have anybody physically present to talk physics with, you always have us. With Griffiths E&M specifically, many of us here are familiar or acquainted with it.
 

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