Can Separation of Variables Solve u_t = u_x for u=A(x)B(t)?

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The discussion revolves around the application of separation of variables to the partial differential equation \( u_t = u_x \). The original poster is exploring the substitution \( u = A(x)B(t) \) and the subsequent steps to derive equations for \( A \) and \( B \). There is a focus on understanding the reasoning behind separating the variables and the implications of setting terms equal to a constant.

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  • Participants discuss the process of substituting \( u = A(x)B(t) \) and the resulting equations. There is inquiry into the validity of separating the terms and the reasoning behind equating them to a constant. Some participants express uncertainty about the steps involved in solving for \( A(x) \) and \( B(t) \).

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their reasoning and questioning the steps taken. Some guidance has been offered regarding the separation of variables and the interpretation of the resulting equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the reasoning presented.

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Participants note that this is their first encounter with separation of variables in the context of partial differential equations, indicating a learning environment where foundational concepts are being explored.

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This is the the first time I've encountered separation with partial differential equations. There are no worked examples, so I need some help to work through this problem. The question seems to be somewhat hand holding, since it seems to be THE introduction.

Q: Apply separation of variables [itex]u_t = u_x[/itex] by substituting [itex]u=A(x)B(t)[/itex] and then dividing by AB. If one side depends only on [itex]t[/itex] and the other only on [itex]x[/itex], they must equal a constant [itex]k[/itex]; what are [itex]A[/itex] and [itex]B[/itex]?

[tex]\frac{\partial u}{\partial t}-\frac{\partial u}{\partial x} = 0[/tex]

[tex]u = A(x)B(t)[/tex]

[tex]\frac{\partial}{\partial t} \left[ A(x)B(t) \right] - \frac{\partial}{\partial x} \left[ A(x)B(t) \right] = 0[/tex]

[tex]A(x)B'(t)-A'(x)B(t)=0[/tex]

[tex]\frac{A(x)B'(t)-A'(x)B(t)}{A(x)B(t)}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{B'(t)}{B(t)}-\frac{A'(x)}{A(x)}=0[/tex]

Now I was reading on various websites, that I can set each independent term equal to separation constants to make two coupled (is this the proper word to use?) differential equations. I don't understand where this step comes from.

but...

[tex]\frac{B'(t)}{B(t)}=k[/tex]

[tex]\frac{A'(x)}{A(x)}=k[/tex]Now solving for [itex]A(x)[/itex] and [itex]B(t)[/itex]. I'm a little rusty here, so I don't know if this part is correct.

Rewriting the two equations above in Leibniz notation

[tex]\frac{dB(t)}{dt} \cdot \frac{1}{B(t)} = k[/tex]

Seperating:

[tex]\frac{dB(t)}{B(t)} = k dt[/tex]

[tex]\int \frac{dB(t)}{B(t)} = \int k\,\,dt[/tex]

[tex]\ln B(t) = kt +c[/tex]

[tex]B(t) = e^{kt+c}[/tex]

And subsequently:

[tex]A(x) = e^{kx+c}[/tex]

Does this make sense? :)
Thanks in advance.
 
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The part where I said I wasn't unsure. Is this line of reasoning correct?

[tex]\frac{B'(t)}{B(t)}-\frac{A'(x)}{A(x)}=0[/tex]

Since the "A term" is equal to the "B term" for some value of x,t we can separate them as a system of equations. Thus, allowing the ODE to be solved with separation of variables.
 
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FrogPad said:
The part where I said I wasn't unsure. Is this line of reasoning correct?

[tex]\frac{B'(t)}{B(t)}-\frac{A'(x)}{A(x)}=0[/tex]

Since the "A term" is equal to the "B term" for some value of x,t we can separate them as a system of equations. Thus, allowing the ODE to be solved with separation of variables.

More to the point, "A term" is equal to the "B term" for all values of x,t, so we can separate them.

Write this as
[tex]\frac{B'(t)}{B(t)}=\frac{A'(x)}{A(x)}[/tex]
Fix x and change t. The left side of the equation does not change because x does not change. But the equation is valid for all x and t- therefore the right side must not have changed even though t changes:
we must have
[tex]\frac{B'(t)}{B(t)}= k[/tex]
for some constant k. Now let x change while t is fixed. We get
[tex]\frac{A'(x)}{A(x)}= k[/tex].
Of course, since they are equal, they must be equal to the same constant.

You have the equations
[tex]\frac{dB}{B}= kdt[/tex]
and
[tex]\frac{dA}{A}= kdt[/tex] so
as, you had before,
[tex]B(t)= e^{kt}+ c[/tex]
which you can rewrite as
[tex]B(t)= Ce^{kt}[/tex]
and
[tex]A(x)= De^{kx}[/tex]
(be careful to use different symbols for the "undetermined constant" in each- they are not necessarily the same)

Finally, since you started by assuming that u(x,y)= A(x)B(t),
a solution to the differential equation is u(x,y)= Cekxekt= Cek(x+t). (The C here is the product of the constants C and D.) Of course, nothing has been said about what k might be. That would be determined by the additional requirements.
 
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no... no you can't. Thank you!

It's always fun when something makes sense.
 

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