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This discussion centers on the interaction of two like charges moving at relativistic speeds and the forces preventing their collision. Participants clarify that the Coulomb force acts between like charges, causing them to repel each other. The conversation also touches on the concept of observers perceiving the same event differently due to relativistic effects, emphasizing that while they may disagree on the timing and coordinates of events, the occurrence of a collision is universally agreed upon. The Liénard-Wiechert potentials are suggested as a method for analyzing these interactions across different reference frames.

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Can someone explain? When two charge moving as fast as possible , what force is acting on for blocking to collide.I mean if you think you are not moving and you are looking 2 charge which are moving as fast as to near light speed, they must collide each other if charge is not increasing according to relativity.But if you moving with charges they must move away to each other.Which force is acting for blocking to charges collide? or is it possible to can 2 observer see same event differently?
 
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arda said:
Can someone explain?When two charge moving as fast as possible , what force is acting on for blocking to collide.
Are you talking about charges of the same sign?
arda said:
I mean if you think you are not moving and you are looking 2 charge which are moving as fast as to near light speed, they must collide each other if charge is not increasing according to relativity.
Why must they collide? Why can they not go about their way without interacting?
arda said:
But if you moving with charges they must move away to each other.
Why?
arda said:
Which force is acting for blocking to charges collide?
Probably the Coulomb force if the charges have the same sign.
arda said:
or is it possible to can 2 observer see same event differently?
If the charges collide, all observers will agree that there has been a collision. They will disagree about the time and coordinates of the collision.
 
kuruman said:
Are you talking about charges of the same sign?
yes they are same
kuruman said:
Why must they collide? Why can they not go about their way without interacting?
because of charges will create magnetic field as i derived formula and they will have much mass when they are moving as fast as near light's speed
kuruman said:
Why?
coulumb's force says that same charge push themselves and if you looking at the charge when you the same speed you must see they are not moving so there is no magnetic or gravitational forces.
kuruman said:
Probably the Coulomb force if the charges have the same sign
absolutely
kuruman said:
If the charges collide, all observers will agree that there has been a collision. They will disagree about the time and coordinates of the collision.
actually this is what i want to learn.how is it possible 2 observer can see same event differently without time
 
arda said:
actually this is what i want to learn.how is it possible 2 observer can see same event differently without time
i want to say differently this because of the forces they will disagree each other to there is any colliding exists or not
 
arda said:
i want to say differently this because of the forces they will disagree each other to there is any colliding exists or not
No. They will not disagree on that. You can just use the Lienard Wiechert potential in any frame to calculate the result and it will be the same
 
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