Can Sound Be Different on Other Planets?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of sound on other planets, particularly focusing on how different atmospheric conditions might affect sound propagation, pitch, and the potential for communication with hypothetical extraterrestrial beings. Participants explore theoretical implications of sound in various environments, including Mars and speculative alien atmospheres.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that sound is vibrations in air and questions how sound might differ on other planets with different atmospheric compositions.
  • Another participant suggests that pitch differences would occur in various gases, similar to the effects of helium on human voices, and speculates that aliens using similar frequency ranges would still be able to communicate.
  • A participant provides an example of how sound would be affected in a helium-rich environment, discussing the impact on resonant cavities and echoes.
  • There is a concern raised about whether the atmospheric conditions on Mars would lead to humans speaking differently and if prolonged exposure could have biological effects.
  • One participant questions if the density of the medium controls the pitch of sound, comparing helium and water, and seeks clarification on this relationship.
  • A later reply posits that any atmosphere suitable for human life would likely resemble Earth's air, implying limited differences in sound propagation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on how sound might change in different atmospheres, with some agreeing on the effects of density and composition while others raise questions about the implications for communication and biological effects. No consensus is reached on the specifics of these effects.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge assumptions about the nature of sound and atmospheric conditions, but there are unresolved questions regarding the exact relationship between medium density and sound pitch, as well as the biological implications of speaking in different environments.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in astrophysics, planetary science, sound physics, and speculative biology may find this discussion relevant.

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Hey guys,

I am no scientist (I am studying advertising at uni), although I am terribly interested in it. My highest scientific learnings was high school; but I did take physics, math c, biology, chemistry. Anyway, I am in no way qualified so my point is bear with me and don't hate ;)

I was just pondering tonight and I was thinking about space, aliens and other stuff you think of at night :P

And I got to wondering, my crude knowledge of sound is it is vibrations of air that our ears then turn pick up, turn into electrical signals, and our brains translate.

Now I know, or am assuming (incase it has been disproven and I don't know :) ) that there is no sound in space because there is no air. So on other planets, where the air is different, is sound then different? On Mars is sound higher pitched or lower?

And just being far fetched, but assuming an alien environment is so unlikely to be exactly the same as ours, would an alien be even able to hear us - or us them.

But I accept stupid questions deserve stupid answers. So if this is stupid to you, apologies and flame away.
 
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There will be differences in pitch (like when speaking in helium, or sulfur hexafluoride), but in general - as long as aliens use the same frequency range (ie they don't communicate with ultrasounds) there should be no problem with hearing them.
 
A sort of example

Have you ever heard someone talking who has been breathing helium? So on a helium world (unlikely!) anything that makes a sound due to resonant cavities would sound higher pitched e.g. voices, resonant empty containers. For solid objects which make a sound without any cavity been involved e.g. hitting a block of wood with a hammer, I think these would still make the same noise. But In practise any enclosed space such as a room, also has its own affect on the sound in terms of reverberation and resonance. So the after effect of hitting a block of wood with a hammer on the helium world,(the echo or dying away bit), would undergo a similar effect to the way a voice is modified breathing helium. Probably.
 
Yeah I assumed it would change pitch like those gasses do here. But I was just wondering if this had any implications. Is the atmosphere much different on say Mars, where future humans on Mars would speak differently then those on Earth. Would prolonged speaking in such an environment cause any biological effects like say speaking more softly or the ears changing etc.

Just seems movies always take sound out of the picture and you never 'hear' about it. *pun seriously not intended, but lol*
 
The denser the medium the better the soundwaves propagate. So is it the denisty of the medium that controls the pitch of the sound? For example helium is less dense then air by a lot so the sound is more high pitched, a denser medium then air such as water creates a more low pitched noise, or am I remebering my phyics inaccurately?
 
If it's an atmosphere that humans can live in I guess its going to be pretty much like the air here anyway.
 

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