Can sunglasses fully protect against UV sensitivity?

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The discussion centers around the effectiveness of sunglasses in protecting against UV sensitivity, particularly focusing on the correlation between the wavelengths blocked by sunglasses and those that trigger photochemical changes in the skin. Participants explore the implications of different types of sunglasses, including photochromic lenses, and their ability to block UV radiation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether there is a 1:1 correlation between the wavelengths blocked by sunglasses and the wavelengths that trigger photochemical changes, particularly in relation to UVB sensitivity.
  • Another participant shares a link to graphs indicating that UVA is the only wavelength with significant transmission through certain sunglasses.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of "quality" sunglasses, with one participant suggesting that "quality" may be synonymous with "photochromic," while another clarifies that quality sunglasses typically block both UVA and UVB.
  • A participant notes that polycarbonate lenses inherently block UVA and UVB and discusses the phenomenon of photochromism, which can be induced by visible violet and ultraviolet light.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential dangers of wearing sunglasses that do not adequately block UV light, especially in UV-intensive environments, as pupils may dilate and allow more UV exposure around the edges.
  • A participant mentions a fun experiment regarding photochromic lenses not darkening when held backwards in sunlight, indicating interest in practical demonstrations.

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Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of sunglasses in blocking harmful wavelengths, and there is no consensus on the specific wavelengths that sunglasses are sensitive to or how this relates to UV sensitivity.

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There are unresolved questions regarding the specific wavelengths that trigger photochemical changes and the implications of different types of lens materials and coatings on UV protection.

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I know quality sunglasses *block* UVA and UVB, but what wavelength are they *sensitive* to?
Is there a 1:1 correlation between the wavelengths that a given pair of quality sunglasses blocks and the wavelength that trigger the photochemical change?

For example: if I know my wife I am particularly sensitive to UVB light, and my wife's my sunglasses only darken under UVA light, then I could be getting exposed to UVB light unwittingly.

(Although I guess that would make for a pretty darned useless - and a falsely advertized - product. Which means I guess I answered my own question.)While I'm on the subject: can UV light pass through a car (side) window? If (someone I know) is regularly developing a rash (in the space of ten minutes) from light falling on her skin through a car window, is that likely UV exposure, or is it possible that skin can be sensitive to visible light wavelengths? (Maybe I should move this last question to Medical & Biology.)
 
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hutchphd said:
This seems to indicate that UVA (315-400nm and the least harmful) is the only one that has any significant transmission.

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DaveC426913 said:
quality sunglasses ... what wavelength are they *sensitive* to?
... the wavelength that trigger the photochemical change?
my sunglasses only darken under UVA light, ...

"Photochemical change" and "darkening under UVA light" is typical for photochromic sunglasses. Are you perhaps using the word "quality" as a synonym for "photochromic"?
 
Orthoceras said:
Are you perhaps using the word "quality" as a synonym for "photochromic"?
Sure. I simply mean to head off digression into the consequences of sunglasses that are simply tinted or whatever.
 
Many sunglasses have polycarbonate lenses. Polycarbonate inherently blocks UVA and UVB (cutoff at 400 nm). The unrelated phenomenon of photochromism occurs in a specific lens coating. It can be induced by visible violet and by ultraviolet.

(Fun experiment: a photochromic polycarbonate lens does not darken when held backwards in sunlight)
 
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DaveC426913 said:
TL;DR Summary: I know quality sunglasses *block* UVA and UVB, but what wavelength are they *sensitive* to?

Is there a 1:1 correlation between the wavelengths that a given pair of quality sunglasses blocks and the wavelength that trigger the photochemical change?
Just a remark. It's nice to have the excess intensity of visible light reduced, but with the stray UV factored in it's also potentially harmful since the pupils gets unnaturally extended, wide open for any UV bypassing around the edges of the sunglasses.

I don't think it would be anything dangerous for a simple photocromatic lens, but it tells a story that - for example - those fancy round sunglasses are NOT recommended for climbing, sailing or for any UV-intensive environment.

When it matters the edge of device sticks to the skin and does not let any stray UV in.

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(random 'climbing sunglass' from the internet)
 
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Orthoceras said:
(Fun experiment: a photochromic polycarbonate lens does not darken when held backwards in sunlight)
I will try that!
 
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