Can Szego Projectors Be Interpreted as POVM in von Neumann Density Context?

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The discussion centers on the interpretation of Szego projectors within the context of von Neumann density matrices and their relationship to Positive Operator-Valued Measures (POVMs). The participants explore the definition of density matrices, particularly in relation to the Born Rule, which states that the expected outcome of an observable is given by the trace of the product of the density matrix and the observable. The conversation highlights that while Szego projectors meet many requirements of POVMs, they do not satisfy the trace condition of being equal to one, raising questions about their functional interpretation in quantum mechanics.

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Ssnow
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I want to ask if it is wrong to interpret the von Neumann density in a '' functional sense'' as a szego projector Hilbert spaces?
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I don't know what they are, but since density matrices are, by definition, defined on Hilbert spaces, that would seem rather difficult unless you change the concept in some way.

In case you haven't seen it here is the exact definition, which is part of the Born Rule

There exists a positive operator of unit trace, P, called the state of the system, such that if O is an observable, E(O), the expected outcome of the observation, is E(O) = Trace (PO).

P is also called the density matrix, but its not my preferred term.

As to why its true check out post 137:
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/the-born-rule-in-many-worlds.763139/page-7

Thanks
Bill
 
Szego projectors are orthogonal projectors from the Hardy space H(X) to L^2 (an equivariant component), It seems that all POMV requirements are satisfied but not the condition on the trace that bust be 1 ... now my question is if I can interpret these Szego projectors (that in general are not matrices but more similar to oscillatory integrals (his kernel)) as a family of POVM that respect the Born rule.
Thank you for the link and your answer ...

Hi,
Ssnow
 

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