Can the Dirac Distribution be Proven Using Integrals?

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The discussion revolves around the Dirac delta distribution and its representation in terms of integrals, specifically exploring the equality between the sum of delta functions and the delta function of a function g(x) that has roots. Participants are examining the conditions under which this equality holds and how to prove it.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the sum of dirac(x - xi)/g'(xi), where the xi satisfy g(xi) = 0, serves as a definition for dirac(g(x)).
  • Another participant suggests verifying the equality by integrating both sides to see if they behave the same in an integral expression.
  • Concerns are raised about the meaning of the first term if the equality is not a definition, complicating the integration for comparison.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the equality holds true under an integral, providing a specific integral expression involving an arbitrary test function f(x) and the delta function.
  • Hints are provided regarding the transformation of variables in the integral, specifically using the relationship between dx and dg.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the equality being discussed, with some focusing on its definition and others on its implications under integration. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the proof of the equality.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the definitions and implications of the terms involved, particularly regarding the conditions under which the equality holds. There are also unresolved mathematical steps related to the integration process.

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bonjour from france,

I thought that sum of dirac(x - xi)/g'(xi), where the xi verify g(xi) = 0, was a definition for dirac(g(x)). It was proposed, as an exercise, to prove the equality of the 2 terms.
can one help me
thanks

ps : can i write this in latex?
 
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Yes, you may write this in LATEX. Please do so.
 
thanks for your help but it was only the second question.
 
The delta function is defined by its action under an integral. Try integrating both sides and verify that they behave the same in an integral expression.
 
Yes, you are true but if the equality I try to prove is not a definition, I do not know what means the first term. In this case I cannot integrate it with a function to compare!
 
naima said:
Yes, you are true but if the equality I try to prove is not a definition, I do not know what means the first term. In this case I cannot integrate it with a function to compare!

I think StatusX means that what you want to show is true if and only if is true "under an integral", i.e., if

[tex]\int^{\infty}_{-\infty} f(x) \delta \left( g \left( x \right) \right) dx = \int^{\infty}_{-\infty} f(x) \sum_{i} \frac{\delta \left( x - x_{i} \right)}{\left| g' \left( x_{i} \right) \right|} dx,[/tex]

where [itex]g \left( x_{i} \right) = 0[/itex] for each [itex]x_i[/itex], and [itex]f[/itex] is an arbitrary test function.

Note that I've inserted an absolute value and a summation.

Hint:

[tex]dx = \frac{1}{\frac{dg}{dx}} dg.[/tex]
 
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