Can the image of f(x)=\cos x + i \sin x be proven to be the unit circle?

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The discussion revolves around the question of whether the image of the function f(x) = cos(x) + i sin(x) can be proven to be the unit circle in the complex plane. Participants explore various aspects of this function, including its domain, properties, and the requirements for a rigorous proof, touching on concepts from topology and complex analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express uncertainty about how to approach the proof, indicating that the statement seems obvious but is difficult to formalize.
  • One participant emphasizes the need to specify the domain of f for the question to make sense.
  • Another participant suggests that proving |f(x)| = 1 and that arg(f(x)) takes on all possible values is essential for the proof.
  • There is a discussion about the definition of the unit circle and how it relates to the proof, with a common definition being { z in C : |z|=1 }.
  • Some participants propose that taking the norm of the function would show it lies on the unit circle, but others challenge this by stating that it does not prove the image is the entire unit circle.
  • A counterexample is discussed, where a function that is constantly 1 is noted to have a norm of 1 but does not map to the entire unit circle.
  • Participants explore the mapping of x to exp(ix) and its implications for points on the complex unit circle.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the proof's requirements or the implications of the function's properties. Multiple competing views on the nature of the proof and the definitions involved remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the definitions of the unit circle and the requirements for a rigorous proof. The discussion also highlights the dependence on the domain of the function and the interpretations of the properties of complex functions.

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I stumbled across this question while self-learning topology, and I am not sure how to proceed. I need to prove that the image of f(x)=\cos x + i \sin x is the unit circle. The statement is obvious, which makes it all the harder for me to figure out what I actually need to do!
 
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it's not
 
That's strange. What am I missing?
 
actually i have no idea about how complex functions work. for all i know it might well be.
 
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First off, you need to specify what the domain of f is for this question to make sense!
 
Welcome to PF!

CrumpledPaper said:
I stumbled across this question while self-learning topology, and I am not sure how to proceed. I need to prove that the image of f(x)=\cos x + i \sin x is the unit circle. The statement is obvious, which makes it all the harder for me to figure out what I actually need to do!

Hi CrumpledPaper! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(ignore ice … it's this hot weather! :wink:)

I supsect they want you to prove that |f(x)| = 1, and that arg(f(x)) takes on all possible values. :smile:
 
The question examines f:\mathbb{R} \rightarrow \mathbb{C}

tiny-tim, thanks for your help. I understand the "unit" portion of the proof. My difficulty is precisely in understanding how to prove that the function takes on all possible values. I thought a circle could be defined as x(t) = \cos t and y(t) = \sin t, in which case I feel like there's nothing left to prove. Could you provide me with a first step so I see what a rigorous proof of this would entail? Thanks!
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi CrumpledPaper! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(ignore ice … it's this hot weather! :wink:)

I supsect they want you to prove that |f(x)| = 1, and that arg(f(x)) takes on all possible values. :smile:


lol @arg(f(x)) taking on all all possible values, the domain of f(x) is all reals because the domain of cos and sin are all reals. actually that's not rigorous at all
 
ice109 said:
lol @arg(f(x)) taking on all all possible values, the domain of f(x) is all reals because the domain of cos and sin are all reals. actually that's not rigorous at all

What would constitute a rigorous proof for this problem?
 
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CrumpledPaper said:
What would constitute a rigorous proof for this problem?
That depends on what your definition of the "unit circle" is. A common definition that doesn't completely trivialize the problem is: { z in C : |z|=1 }.
 
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I don't seem to be getting anywhere still. Here's the complete problem:

Let the function f: \mathbb{R} \rightarrow \mathbb{C} be defined by f(x) = \cos x + i \sin x for each real x. If a + ib is a complex number, then its absolute value is \left|a + ib\right| = (a^2 + b^2)^{\frac{1}{2}}; it is clear that \left| f(x) \right| = 1 for each real x. Hence the image of f lies on the circle of unit radius which is centered at the origin in the plane. The function f may be visualized as assigning to each real number the point on that circle arrived at by going counterclockwise around the circle a distance x, starting at 1 = 1 + i0; x < 0 requires the distance \left| x \right| in the clockwise direction. This makes it clear that the image of f equals the unit circle; can you prove it rigorously?
 
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Prove that
  1. For each real x, the mapping x\rightarrow\exp(ix) is a point on the complex unit circle.
  2. For each point on the complex unit circle there exists a real x that maps to this point via this same mapping.
 
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D H said:
Prove that
  1. For each real x, the mapping x\rightarrow\exp(ix) is a point on the complex unit circle.
  2. For each point on the complex unit circle there exists a real x that maps to this point via this same mapping.

Excellent. Thanks.
 
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why don't you just take the norm of the function? it'll be 1
 
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ice109 said:
why don't you just take the norm of the function? it'll be 1
That shows the image of \exp(ix) is a subset of the complex unit circle. It does not show that the image is the complex unit circle.

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As a counterexample, consider the function f(x)=1. While the norm of this function is always one, that fact alone does not suffice to show the image of this function is the complex unit circle (which obviously is not the case).
 
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D H said:
That shows the image of \exp(ix) is a subset of the complex unit circle. It does not show that the image is the complex unit circle.

Edited to add:
As a counterexample, consider the function f(x)=1. While the norm of this function is always one, that fact alone does not suffice to show the image of this function is the complex unit circle (which obviously is not the case).

Good point, although in this case I don't think f(x)=1 is a valid counterexample because the norm is not one in \mathbb{C} for all points along the line (i.e. (1 + 100i)). A better counterexample would be a function defined by any single point on the circle.
 
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CrumpledPaper said:
Good point, although in this case I don't think f(x)=1 is a valid counterexample because the norm is not one in \mathbb{C} for all points along the line (i.e. (1 + 100i)). A better counterexample would be a function defined by any single point on the circle.
f(x)=1 is identically one for all x. In other words, its image is a single point on the unit circle.
 
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D H said:
f(x)=1 is identically one for all x. In other words, its image is a single point on the unit circle.

My bad. You're right =)
 

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