Trigonometric Circle : f(x) = cos(2x+1)

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation f(x) = cos(2x + 1) for f(x) = 0.6 within the interval -π ≤ x ≤ π. Participants are exploring how to represent their solutions on a Trigonometric Circle.

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  • Participants discuss the process of solving cos(2x + 1) = 0.6 and the implications of their solutions. There are questions about how to correctly plot these solutions on a Trigonometric Circle and the reasoning behind transformations applied to the solutions.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to interpret the solutions in relation to the Trigonometric Circle, while others express confusion about the transformations needed to plot their solutions correctly. Multiple interpretations of how to approach the problem are being explored.

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There is uncertainty regarding the use of the calculator for solving trigonometric equations and how to handle angles that exceed 360 degrees. Participants are also questioning the necessity of certain transformations in relation to the unit circle.

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Homework Statement


I have the function f(x) = cos(2x+1)
I need to resolve f(x) = 0.6 when -PI <= x <= PI

then put my answers in a Trigonometric Circle

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


First I do this:
cos(2x+1) = 0.6 and use my TI calculator to solve for X and I find the following solutions
x1 = -0.964 x2 = -0.036 x3 = 2.178 x4 = 3.105

now to put those in a Trigonometric Circle am I supposed to use my x in the f(x) function and do like
f(x1) = cos(2x1+1) = cos(-0.964) = 0.599436
or directly from x1-x4 to my Trigonometric Circle?

thank you very much

EDIT: I don't understand because my cos in my Trigonometric Circle goes from 1 to -1 how am I supposed to put x3 = 2.178 x4 = 3.105 :/
 
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Great work, just to remind that, in geometry and also by definition, cos and trig function are functions of angles, :)
Edit: Don't forget that you find a solution for 2x+, get the x out of that and plot them,
 
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helppleasemath said:

Homework Statement


I have the function f(x) = cos(2x+1)
I need to resolve f(x) = 0.6 when -PI <= x <= PI

then put my answers in a Trigonometric Circle

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


First I do this:
cos(2x+1) = 0.6 and use my TI calculator to solve for X and I find the following solutions
x1 = -0.964 x2 = -0.036 x3 = 2.178 x4 = 3.105

now to put those in a Trigonometric Circle am I supposed to use my x in the f(x) function and do like
f(x1) = cos(2x1+1) = cos(-0.964) = 0.599436
or directly from x1-x4 to my Trigonometric Circle?
Well, you solved for x, didn't you?

And f(x1) ≈ 0.6 . Right?

thank you very much

EDIT: I don't understand because my cos in my Trigonometric Circle goes from 1 to -1 how am I supposed to put x3 = 2.178 x4 = 3.105 :/
x1, x2, x3, x4, don't go directly on your trig. circle.

If you really want them on your trig. circle, multiply each of them by 2, then add 1, then find that number in radians on the circle. Each of those should be at x ≅ 0.6 , assuming that the x-coordinate on your circle corresponds to cosine .
 
SammyS said:
Well, you solved for x, didn't you?

And f(x1) ≈ 0.6 . Right?x1, x2, x3, x4, don't go directly on your trig. circle.

If you really want them on your trig. circle, multiply each of them by 2, then add 1, then find that number in radians on the circle. Each of those should be at x ≅ 0.6 , assuming that the x-coordinate on your circle corresponds to cosine .
x1 = -0.964 x2 = -0.036 x3 = 2.178 x4 = 3.105

x1 = (-0.964*2)+1 = -0.928
x2= (-0.036*2)+1 = 0.928
x2= (2.178*2)+1 = 5.356
x3= (3.105*2)+1 = 7.21

I don't really understand why we do *2+1 and how to find the result in radian
 
Your calculator doesn't help you to understand what you are doing when you solve a tigonometric equation.

If you want to solve ##\cos(2x+1) = 0.6##, you find an angle that has a cosine of 0.6.

Now the calculator comes in handy: if ##\phi = 0.9273## radians (or 53.13 degrees), then ##\cos\phi=0.6##.

So now you can write ##\cos(2x+1) = \cos\phi##, and this means that your solutions satisfy

##2x+1 = \phi + 2n\pi## or (because ##\cos(\theta) = \cos(-\theta)## )
##2x+1 = -\phi + 2n\pi##
 
BvU said:
Your calculator doesn't help you to understand what you are doing when you solve a tigonometric equation.

If you want to solve ##\cos(2x+1) = 0.6##, you find an angle that has a cosine of 0.6.

Now the calculator comes in handy: if ##\phi = 0.9273## radians (or 53.13 degrees), then ##\cos\phi=0.6##.

So now you can write ##\cos(2x+1) = \cos\phi##, and this means that your solutions satisfy

##2x+1 = \phi + 2n\pi## or (because ##\cos(\theta) = \cos(-\theta)## )
##2x+1 = -\phi + 2n\pi##
ϕ=0.9273 \phi = 0.9273 radians (or 53.13 degrees), then cosϕ=0.6 \cos\phi=0.6 .
ϕ=0.9273 \phi = -0.9273 radians (or -53.13 degrees), then cosϕ=0.6 \cos\phi=0.6 .
ϕ=0.9273 \phi = 5.356 radians (or 306.876 degrees), then cosϕ=0.6 \cos\phi=0.6 .
ϕ=0.9273 \phi = 7.21 radians (or 413.103 degrees), then cosϕ=0.6 \cos\phi=0.6 . // Does that make sense that its more than 360 degree?
 
I still need help please :(
 
helppleasemath said:
x1 = -0.964 x2 = -0.036 x3 = 2.178 x4 = 3.105

x1 = (-0.964*2)+1 = -0.928
x2= (-0.036*2)+1 = 0.928
x3= (2.178*2)+1 = 5.356
x4= (3.105*2)+1 = 7.21

I don't really understand why we do *2+1 and how to find the result in radian
x1 is -0.964 , it's not -0.928, etc. You only multiply by 2, then add 1 to use the trig. circle.

You are solving ##\ \cos(2x+1)=0.6\ ##. So that to check any of your solutions for ##\ x\,,\ ## you need plug them in which amounts to multiplying your solution by 2, then adding 1 to that. Taking the cosine of this quantity should give of approximately 0.6 .

In other words, since your answers are in radians, multiplying by 2 and then adding should result in an angle, which should correspond to a cosine of 0.6 on your trig. circle.
 
helppleasemath said:
I still need help please :(
You seemed rather impatient for a response. Haven't heard back from you. Maybe that means you now are satisfied with your understanding or with your solution.Just a quick remark regarding Post #3 as a response to your Original Post.

I should have mentioned that your solutions were a complete set and all correct, at least to the nearest 0.001 radian.

I was simply trying to answer your questions - which showed much confusion - regarding how the solutions are related to the Trigonometric Circle.

I apologize if I mislead you regarding the correctness of those solutions.

SammyS
 
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helppleasemath said:
ϕ=0.9273 \phi = 0.9273 radians (or 53.13 degrees), then cosϕ=0.6 \cos\phi=0.6 .
ϕ=0.9273 \phi = -0.9273 radians (or -53.13 degrees), then cosϕ=0.6 \cos\phi=0.6 .
ϕ=0.9273 \phi = 5.356 radians (or 306.876 degrees), then cosϕ=0.6 \cos\phi=0.6 .
ϕ=0.9273 \phi = 7.21 radians (or 413.103 degrees), then cosϕ=0.6 \cos\phi=0.6 . // Does that make sense that its more than 360 degree?

I still need help please :(

From this I conclude you worked out ##\pm\phi + 2n\pi## with n = 0 and n = 1. You found two distinct angles for which the cosine is 0.6

There is no problem for going over ##2\pi##, but adding ##2\pi## does not give a new solution fo ##\phi##: 413.13 degrees is the same as 53.13 degrees and 308.87 is the same as -53.13.

However, there are more than 2 distinct solutions for ##x##, because of the factor 2.
And the exercise asks you to place the answers for ##x## on the unit circle.

So I would find it logical if you would first solve
##2x+1 =\pm \phi + 2n\pi\ \ ## for ##x##​
and then look for the unique answers in a range of ##2\pi## wide: ##[0,2\pi]## or ##[-\pi,\pi]##

The equation ##2x+1 =\pm \phi + 2n\pi\ \Rightarrow\ x = {\pm \phi - 1 \over 2} + n\pi\ ## gives you 2 solutions in ##[0,2\pi]## for the plus sign (n= 0 and n = 1), and also 2 for the minus sign (n = 1 and n = 2).

I must say that the instruction to place the answers on the unit circle doesn't make much sense to me, but perhaps I miss something didactically relevant there.
 

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